Comments on: The huerrgh! factor: excessive manliness in anime http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/ Get decultured Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:17:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: The Otakusphere: Downtiming on the Nightside in the Way Back Machine « In Search of Number Nine http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-39601 The Otakusphere: Downtiming on the Nightside in the Way Back Machine « In Search of Number Nine Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:45:12 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-39601 [...] I really wish I could have joined in on, but I kind of figure my opinion would have ruined it), I picked out this one on the “Hoo-hah” factor in anime. If you’ve watched “Scent of a [...] [...] I really wish I could have joined in on, but I kind of figure my opinion would have ruined it), I picked out this one on the “Hoo-hah” factor in anime. If you’ve watched “Scent of a [...]

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]]> By: ConcreteBadger http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-24181 ConcreteBadger Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:15:13 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-24181 @Kauldron26: Good to see you here! :) Yeah, liked the way that Moolnlight Mile made an effort to be realistic. Shame it was so deadly dull though. :( It just makes me look forward to the PlanetES box set even more! @Kauldron26: Good to see you here! :) Yeah, liked the way that Moolnlight Mile made an effort to be realistic. Shame it was so deadly dull though. :( It just makes me look forward to the PlanetES box set even more!

]]> By: kauldron26 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-24180 kauldron26 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:31:43 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-24180 moonlight mile i didnt think was excessive manliness. if anything it was very realistic of guys. c'mon dont we all just want to bust our ass working and get some ass too... seriously man. we all want to get paid and get laid. and it doesnt hurt that the anime had some great science fiction. i liked it. moonlight mile i didnt think was excessive manliness. if anything it was very realistic of guys. c’mon dont we all just want to bust our ass working and get some ass too… seriously man. we all want to get paid and get laid. and it doesnt hurt that the anime had some great science fiction. i liked it.

]]> By: ConcreteBadger http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-24071 ConcreteBadger Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:24:53 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-24071 <p>@Hige: For some reason, I've always seen Gainax as showing a 'pro feminist' approach to their central characters, what with the strong and almost Miyazaki-esque butt-kicking nature of the heroines. That said, the likes of This Ugly Yet Beautiful World kinda undo that (but then TUYBW undid a lot of my hopes surrounding the studio). I've not seen Gurren Lagann past ep 10 so sadly can't comment on how Kamina's influence is diminished when placed next to the show overall.</p> <p>I didn't really consider the possibility of a new blogging meme! TBH it would be a bit scary to see manly 'Huerrgh!'s flying across the blogosphere but kinda cool at the same time...actually, this post has already reached the top of the Google search for the word '<a href="http://www.concretebadger.net/images/blog/one-off-reviews/google-huerrgh.jpg" rel="nofollow">huerrgh</a>'!</p> @Hige: For some reason, I’ve always seen Gainax as showing a ‘pro feminist’ approach to their central characters, what with the strong and almost Miyazaki-esque butt-kicking nature of the heroines. That said, the likes of This Ugly Yet Beautiful World kinda undo that (but then TUYBW undid a lot of my hopes surrounding the studio). I’ve not seen Gurren Lagann past ep 10 so sadly can’t comment on how Kamina’s influence is diminished when placed next to the show overall.

I didn’t really consider the possibility of a new blogging meme! TBH it would be a bit scary to see manly ‘Huerrgh!’s flying across the blogosphere but kinda cool at the same time…actually, this post has already reached the top of the Google search for the word ‘huerrgh‘!

]]> By: Hige http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-24043 Hige Mon, 13 Aug 2007 01:17:18 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-24043 If ever anime blogging needed a new meme, Huerrgh! is it. And yeah, manliness in GAINAX anime has always been laced with cynicism. Their manly characters seem to share a fairly tragic, unfulfilled fates. Gendo is probably the best example of traditional manliness in Evangelion and we all know how fucked over he gets as a consequence of his internal/external deceptions. Kamina, while not as damaging on his associates as Gendo, never really amounts to much more than a martyr who dies in the eighth episode. No doubt his manliness has an explosive affect on others in life and death, and he leaves a great impression on the audience, but as a person he doesn't last. I always saw his death as GAINAX admitting Kamina could only take the show so far. I can you could say the same for manliness, in a grander sense. If ever anime blogging needed a new meme, Huerrgh! is it.

And yeah, manliness in GAINAX anime has always been laced with cynicism. Their manly characters seem to share a fairly tragic, unfulfilled fates. Gendo is probably the best example of traditional manliness in Evangelion and we all know how fucked over he gets as a consequence of his internal/external deceptions.

Kamina, while not as damaging on his associates as Gendo, never really amounts to much more than a martyr who dies in the eighth episode. No doubt his manliness has an explosive affect on others in life and death, and he leaves a great impression on the audience, but as a person he doesn’t last. I always saw his death as GAINAX admitting Kamina could only take the show so far. I can you could say the same for manliness, in a grander sense.

]]> By: ConcreteBadger http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-24033 ConcreteBadger Sun, 12 Aug 2007 11:09:14 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-24033 @Sasa: I'm not sure when the manga for Moonlight Mile dates back to - it could well be either an old title or inspired by the gung-ho American efforts but the question still remains as to why the writers of the animated adaptation still retained the manliness thing. Credit to them for making an effort with the realism in regards to the space travel though. In case you're wondering, the Pillows tune used in the show is on their new 'Wake Up! Wake Up! Wake Up!' album. I want! @Hayase: Congrats on finishing the series! I don't know how many people are following it now, but a second season is already being planned. Maybe it was more popular than I thought. @Nick: I recommend Gurren Lagann for the sheer over-the-top fun of it all. Berserk on the other hand I haven't seen, but I've heard a lot of good things and can't wait for the UK DVD release! @Sasa: I’m not sure when the manga for Moonlight Mile dates back to - it could well be either an old title or inspired by the gung-ho American efforts but the question still remains as to why the writers of the animated adaptation still retained the manliness thing. Credit to them for making an effort with the realism in regards to the space travel though. In case you’re wondering, the Pillows tune used in the show is on their new ‘Wake Up! Wake Up! Wake Up!’ album. I want!

@Hayase: Congrats on finishing the series! I don’t know how many people are following it now, but a second season is already being planned. Maybe it was more popular than I thought.

@Nick: I recommend Gurren Lagann for the sheer over-the-top fun of it all. Berserk on the other hand I haven’t seen, but I’ve heard a lot of good things and can’t wait for the UK DVD release!

]]> By: Nick http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-24006 Nick Sat, 11 Aug 2007 17:26:43 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-24006 I gave up on Moonlight Mile after three episodes myself mainly because the whole "shallow manliness" of the two leads got to me by then. It's unfortunate to me, because I know that "shounen manliness" and shallowness doesn't necessarily go together; Berserk is an example of a testosterone-filled series that takes itself seriously, and yet has spawned <a href="http://www.animenfo.com/forums/viewtopic.php?highlight=griffith&t=7926" rel="nofollow">essays</a> (warning, spoilers there) about the main characters. I haven't seen Gurren Lagann, but I should put that on the "to watch" list that I'm slowly trying to tackle... I gave up on Moonlight Mile after three episodes myself mainly because the whole “shallow manliness” of the two leads got to me by then. It’s unfortunate to me, because I know that “shounen manliness” and shallowness doesn’t necessarily go together; Berserk is an example of a testosterone-filled series that takes itself seriously, and yet has spawned essays (warning, spoilers there) about the main characters.

I haven’t seen Gurren Lagann, but I should put that on the “to watch” list that I’m slowly trying to tackle…

]]> By: hayase http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-23989 hayase Sat, 11 Aug 2007 01:53:45 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-23989 I managed to finish Moonlight Mile and although yes the two main characters are oozing testosterone, it never really turned me off. (Though yes I had to minimize the window because of those Not-Safe for Kids/Family scenes hehehe.) The two things that keeps me watching MM are the good CG and the promise of mech sightings. That's all LOL I managed to finish Moonlight Mile and although yes the two main characters are oozing testosterone, it never really turned me off. (Though yes I had to minimize the window because of those Not-Safe for Kids/Family scenes hehehe.)

The two things that keeps me watching MM are the good CG and the promise of mech sightings. That’s all LOL

]]> By: Sasa http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-23984 Sasa Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:02:58 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/08/10/the-huerrgh-factor-excessive-manliness-in-anime/#comment-23984 Yay, you really published this article! *highfives* Suddenly I had to think of francobelgian and especially american (superman) comics when I saw the screenshot of Moonlight Mile. Generally, older manga as well as those kinds of comics have much more generic and stereotypical body types and (probably) also more manly characters. So I thought it might be that Moonlight Mile is so manly because it's leaning towards comics? Yay, you really published this article! *highfives*

Suddenly I had to think of francobelgian and especially american (superman) comics when I saw the screenshot of Moonlight Mile. Generally, older manga as well as those kinds of comics have much more generic and stereotypical body types and (probably) also more manly characters. So I thought it might be that Moonlight Mile is so manly because it’s leaning towards comics?

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