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	<title>Comments on: Ergo Proxy 1-4</title>
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	<description>Get decultured</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sasa</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/09/01/ergo-proxy-1-4/#comment-24667</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 08:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, David Lynch is a nice comparison - however, I think that despite everything, the story of Ergo Proxy is actually coherent (even though it might not look like that at first glance), while Lynch's stories (if you can even call them 'stories') are not supposed to be coherent at all.

I also agree with aestheticbend: I found the philosophical inserts rather pretentious and stupid rather than enlightening, even though I do expect that the makers of the film have actually read the works and philosophers in question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, David Lynch is a nice comparison - however, I think that despite everything, the story of Ergo Proxy is actually coherent (even though it might not look like that at first glance), while Lynch&#8217;s stories (if you can even call them &#8217;stories&#8217;) are not supposed to be coherent at all.</p>
<p>I also agree with aestheticbend: I found the philosophical inserts rather pretentious and stupid rather than enlightening, even though I do expect that the makers of the film have actually read the works and philosophers in question.</p>
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		<title>By: ConcreteBadger</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/09/01/ergo-proxy-1-4/#comment-24652</link>
		<dc:creator>ConcreteBadger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 22:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kauldron26: since you have such good taste I'll take that on board! I'm hoping the series takes it in an interesting direction since I have a few suspicions but no clear ideas as to what could happen next. It's funny you mention Mulholland Drive though: I'm a huge fan of Lynch's style. The atmospherics, music and mystery were enough to make Twin Peaks good viewing so my hopes are still up for this.

@Orion: it's still early days and I'm too lazy to import the American releases so I'm waiting for the UK R2s and hoping the 'vibe' will be enough to keep my interest - mainly because the vibe struck such a chord with me. As a fan of straight-faced sci-fi, it could well be enough.

@aestheticband: your concept of 'philosophy service' intrigues me, mainly because I'm a fan of headscratcher stuff in general so I'll bear it in mind. The idea that Re-L is the granddaughter of the 'regent' is interesting in itself - it could well be that the show isn't as 'deep' or clever as it thinks it is, but sometimes cool visuals and music are sufficient to make for interesting TV. This could be a case in point.

Either way, vol #2 is out at the beginning of October in the UK so I'll find out more soon enough! ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kauldron26: since you have such good taste I&#8217;ll take that on board! I&#8217;m hoping the series takes it in an interesting direction since I have a few suspicions but no clear ideas as to what could happen next. It&#8217;s funny you mention Mulholland Drive though: I&#8217;m a huge fan of Lynch&#8217;s style. The atmospherics, music and mystery were enough to make Twin Peaks good viewing so my hopes are still up for this.</p>
<p>@Orion: it&#8217;s still early days and I&#8217;m too lazy to import the American releases so I&#8217;m waiting for the UK R2s and hoping the &#8216;vibe&#8217; will be enough to keep my interest - mainly because the vibe struck such a chord with me. As a fan of straight-faced sci-fi, it could well be enough.</p>
<p>@aestheticband: your concept of &#8216;philosophy service&#8217; intrigues me, mainly because I&#8217;m a fan of headscratcher stuff in general so I&#8217;ll bear it in mind. The idea that Re-L is the granddaughter of the &#8216;regent&#8217; is interesting in itself - it could well be that the show isn&#8217;t as &#8216;deep&#8217; or clever as it thinks it is, but sometimes cool visuals and music are sufficient to make for interesting TV. This could be a case in point.</p>
<p>Either way, vol #2 is out at the beginning of October in the UK so I&#8217;ll find out more soon enough! ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: aestheticbend</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/09/01/ergo-proxy-1-4/#comment-24649</link>
		<dc:creator>aestheticbend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 21:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed Ergo Proxy, but I feel it has one major weakness. That weakness is that it makes use of what I would call "philosophy service". Essentially much of the philosophy in this show is quite random and while interesting it does not really add that much to the conflict and it seemed to me that they were referencing the ideas as a way of showing how deep it was. But still a very good anime series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed Ergo Proxy, but I feel it has one major weakness. That weakness is that it makes use of what I would call &#8220;philosophy service&#8221;. Essentially much of the philosophy in this show is quite random and while interesting it does not really add that much to the conflict and it seemed to me that they were referencing the ideas as a way of showing how deep it was. But still a very good anime series.</p>
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		<title>By: 0rion</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/09/01/ergo-proxy-1-4/#comment-24641</link>
		<dc:creator>0rion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ergo Proxy was an interesting concept, but I felt like the writers kind of lost control of the plot as the story develops.  It started off strong, but eventually went off in a bunch of random directions, began to make heavier use of deus ex machina to move the plot along, and failed to really develop the characters.

Nevertheless, if you can get past that, the show does create a great vibe, so sci-fi fans may enjoy it regardless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ergo Proxy was an interesting concept, but I felt like the writers kind of lost control of the plot as the story develops.  It started off strong, but eventually went off in a bunch of random directions, began to make heavier use of deus ex machina to move the plot along, and failed to really develop the characters.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, if you can get past that, the show does create a great vibe, so sci-fi fans may enjoy it regardless.</p>
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		<title>By: kauldron26</title>
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		<dc:creator>kauldron26</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trust me the plot isnt derivative.  hopefully u have no idea what you're in store for.  dont read any forums or any reviews for the show so  dont get ruined.  ergo proxy is not what you think it is at all.  very soon the rug will be swept up from under you.  i really loved this show because i never knew what to expect.  it reminded me of one of my favorite movies mulholland drive.  matter of fact it is scifi/cyberpunk version of mulholland drive.  if david lynch were to make an anime, this would be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trust me the plot isnt derivative.  hopefully u have no idea what you&#8217;re in store for.  dont read any forums or any reviews for the show so  dont get ruined.  ergo proxy is not what you think it is at all.  very soon the rug will be swept up from under you.  i really loved this show because i never knew what to expect.  it reminded me of one of my favorite movies mulholland drive.  matter of fact it is scifi/cyberpunk version of mulholland drive.  if david lynch were to make an anime, this would be it.</p>
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