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		<title>By: 0rion</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/10/16/bad-journalism-has-left-me-in-despair/#comment-28818</link>
		<dc:creator>0rion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Nick

Amen to that. xP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Nick</p>
<p>Amen to that. xP</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/10/16/bad-journalism-has-left-me-in-despair/#comment-28713</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not much of a writer but judging by this blog’s layout when viewed on IE, I’m an even worse coder!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do not underestimate the work needed to get a layout working on IE...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m not much of a writer but judging by this blog’s layout when viewed on IE, I’m an even worse coder!</p></blockquote>
<p>Do not underestimate the work needed to get a layout working on IE&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ConcreteBadger</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/10/16/bad-journalism-has-left-me-in-despair/#comment-28670</link>
		<dc:creator>ConcreteBadger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite a few replies to this one, which is no mean feat for some obscure indie student site (I'm not from Oregon or even the US, so it's obscure to me). At the time of this comment there's still no sign of the writer or the site clearing things up and saying "just kidding!" but what's even more baffling is that very few of the commenters over there have considered the possibility.

@Orion: I suspect the Oregon Daily Emerald has lost some credibility with this article. Please don't assume I don't respect Beavis and Butthead, though, they were the voices of a generation! ;)

@KT: Yeah, I began to SERIOUSLY doubt the guy's sanity with that. Is it satirising poser students who wear Che t-shirts, perhaps?

@Totoum: yep, never under-estimate the powers of doing your homework!

@Nick: I'm not much of a writer but judging by this blog's layout when viewed on IE, I'm an even worse coder!

@Peter S: Agreed. Even if his tongue's in his cheek, it's still bad comedy writing - he'd still look like a dick if he claimed "nobody got my joke!"

@Owen: I'm not afraid to call him a stupid git either. I'm actually annoyed that he has a bona fide writer's job while I've been doing this in my spare time for nearly two years. I'm even older than he is! It makes you wonder what sort of shitstorm would have arisen if this were a professional publication rather than a student one. Now THAT's worrying.

I'd like to add that on the very same site, there's &lt;a href="http://media.www.dailyemerald.com/media/storage/paper859/news/2007/10/17/Opinion/Claims.About.Anime.Ridiculous-3037639.shtml" rel="nofollow"&gt;another article that rubbishes Glucklich's claims&lt;/a&gt;. Clearly some people on the ODE itself don't get the joke either!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite a few replies to this one, which is no mean feat for some obscure indie student site (I&#8217;m not from Oregon or even the US, so it&#8217;s obscure to me). At the time of this comment there&#8217;s still no sign of the writer or the site clearing things up and saying &#8220;just kidding!&#8221; but what&#8217;s even more baffling is that very few of the commenters over there have considered the possibility.</p>
<p>@Orion: I suspect the Oregon Daily Emerald has lost some credibility with this article. Please don&#8217;t assume I don&#8217;t respect Beavis and Butthead, though, they were the voices of a generation! <img src='http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@KT: Yeah, I began to SERIOUSLY doubt the guy&#8217;s sanity with that. Is it satirising poser students who wear Che t-shirts, perhaps?</p>
<p>@Totoum: yep, never under-estimate the powers of doing your homework!</p>
<p>@Nick: I&#8217;m not much of a writer but judging by this blog&#8217;s layout when viewed on IE, I&#8217;m an even worse coder!</p>
<p>@Peter S: Agreed. Even if his tongue&#8217;s in his cheek, it&#8217;s still bad comedy writing - he&#8217;d still look like a dick if he claimed &#8220;nobody got my joke!&#8221;</p>
<p>@Owen: I&#8217;m not afraid to call him a stupid git either. I&#8217;m actually annoyed that he has a bona fide writer&#8217;s job while I&#8217;ve been doing this in my spare time for nearly two years. I&#8217;m even older than he is! It makes you wonder what sort of shitstorm would have arisen if this were a professional publication rather than a student one. Now THAT&#8217;s worrying.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to add that on the very same site, there&#8217;s <a href="http://media.www.dailyemerald.com/media/storage/paper859/news/2007/10/17/Opinion/Claims.About.Anime.Ridiculous-3037639.shtml" rel="nofollow">another article that rubbishes Glucklich&#8217;s claims</a>. Clearly some people on the ODE itself don&#8217;t get the joke either!</p>
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		<title>By: Owen S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hide crystals in US classrooms and see truancy rates fall! How’s that for a good idea, eh?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Definitely, but only if they're meth.

Won't bother bashing the obvious ones, but 700 affected children in a statistic of God knows how many hundreds of thousands, if not millions of kids has nothing at all to do with the anime's moral fibre or whatnot. It was an animation oversight more like.

Also, the problem with trying to establish evidently shitty writing as satire is that satire doesn't really need to cite anything to make a case out of it, mostly because satire shouldn't have to. Period. As a writer I resent the whole "give him the benefit of the doubt" thing, we shouldn't be afraid of calling him a stupid git, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hide crystals in US classrooms and see truancy rates fall! How’s that for a good idea, eh?</p></blockquote>
<p>Definitely, but only if they&#8217;re meth.</p>
<p>Won&#8217;t bother bashing the obvious ones, but 700 affected children in a statistic of God knows how many hundreds of thousands, if not millions of kids has nothing at all to do with the anime&#8217;s moral fibre or whatnot. It was an animation oversight more like.</p>
<p>Also, the problem with trying to establish evidently shitty writing as satire is that satire doesn&#8217;t really need to cite anything to make a case out of it, mostly because satire shouldn&#8217;t have to. Period. As a writer I resent the whole &#8220;give him the benefit of the doubt&#8221; thing, we shouldn&#8217;t be afraid of calling him a stupid git, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly feel that the author's tongue was in his cheek the entire time.  That it's causing confusion like this means it's poorly written, is all.  C'mon, the guy is praising rugrats!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly feel that the author&#8217;s tongue was in his cheek the entire time.  That it&#8217;s causing confusion like this means it&#8217;s poorly written, is all.  C&#8217;mon, the guy is praising rugrats!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me fail English?  Unpossible!

Please replace "sarcasm" with "satire" in my previous comment.

Good thing I'm a programmer and not a professional writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me fail English?  Unpossible!</p>
<p>Please replace &#8220;sarcasm&#8221; with &#8220;satire&#8221; in my previous comment.</p>
<p>Good thing I&#8217;m a programmer and not a professional writer.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Scratches head*

This article by Glucklich is sarcasm?  Poor attempt of it.  It definitely can't be taken seriously, though.

I do know Americans can do sarcasm.  &lt;a href="http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2006/10/01/pokemon-the-yellow-peril.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;Even involving Pokemon&lt;/a&gt;...  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Scratches head*</p>
<p>This article by Glucklich is sarcasm?  Poor attempt of it.  It definitely can&#8217;t be taken seriously, though.</p>
<p>I do know Americans can do sarcasm.  <a href="http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2006/10/01/pokemon-the-yellow-peril.aspx" rel="nofollow">Even involving Pokemon</a>&#8230;  <img src='http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: totoum</title>
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		<dc:creator>totoum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"None of the shows I’ve seen make nearly enough sense to be working toward anything other than a lackluster battle between Bulbasaur and Charmander and the next commercial break"

lol,this guy hasn't watched any animes as he?

and pokemon started out as a video game (i thought any 20 year old would know that lol) and a pretty damn good one (ranked 70th best game of all time by ign)

Could have been worse though,he didn't call "code lyoko" anime (i've seen it done)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;None of the shows I’ve seen make nearly enough sense to be working toward anything other than a lackluster battle between Bulbasaur and Charmander and the next commercial break&#8221;</p>
<p>lol,this guy hasn&#8217;t watched any animes as he?</p>
<p>and pokemon started out as a video game (i thought any 20 year old would know that lol) and a pretty damn good one (ranked 70th best game of all time by ign)</p>
<p>Could have been worse though,he didn&#8217;t call &#8220;code lyoko&#8221; anime (i&#8217;ve seen it done)</p>
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		<title>By: KT Kore</title>
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		<dc:creator>KT Kore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article lost all credibility (as if it ever had any to begin with) after the Che reference. What a joke. You can clearly see how misinformed this guy is. But whatever. Like 0rion, I'm gonna go ahead and give the writer the benefit of the doubt and call it satire. *shrugs*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article lost all credibility (as if it ever had any to begin with) after the Che reference. What a joke. You can clearly see how misinformed this guy is. But whatever. Like 0rion, I&#8217;m gonna go ahead and give the writer the benefit of the doubt and call it satire. *shrugs*</p>
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		<title>By: 0rion</title>
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		<dc:creator>0rion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I’d also like to point out that the other two leading figures of the MTV generation are Beavis and Butthead…clearly Ghandi and Mandela of a sofa, then."

I lol'd.

But in all seriousness, I can't think that this article was written seriously. The Michael Vick reference, the intentional antagonism, and especially the closing paragraph all scream "Bad satire!"

I mean, the writer doesn't even try to link his points together or make any kind of logical conclusions. It's like a Who's Who list of logical fallacies.

You're absolutely right, though - regardless of whether this was serious or satire, it should never have gotten past the editor's desk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’d also like to point out that the other two leading figures of the MTV generation are Beavis and Butthead…clearly Ghandi and Mandela of a sofa, then.&#8221;</p>
<p>I lol&#8217;d.</p>
<p>But in all seriousness, I can&#8217;t think that this article was written seriously. The Michael Vick reference, the intentional antagonism, and especially the closing paragraph all scream &#8220;Bad satire!&#8221;</p>
<p>I mean, the writer doesn&#8217;t even try to link his points together or make any kind of logical conclusions. It&#8217;s like a Who&#8217;s Who list of logical fallacies.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right, though - regardless of whether this was serious or satire, it should never have gotten past the editor&#8217;s desk.</p>
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