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	<title>Comments on: Autumn season 07: preconceptions and the element of surprise</title>
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		<title>By: Being on the Frontlines of Anime @ Mega Megane Moé</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/11/23/autumn-season-07-preconceptions-and-the-element-of-surprise/#comment-37661</link>
		<dc:creator>Being on the Frontlines of Anime @ Mega Megane Moé</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for quite a while. In fact, that&#8217;s exactly the rather broad topic for another post rush by the Anime Blogging Collective (every word is a separate link, so please click and enjoy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: j.valdez</title>
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		<dc:creator>j.valdez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've become a bit confused as to my taste. It has gotten to the point that I don't really consider what the shows are going to be about before a sample. If anything, it comes down to a being like Xee-Rocks!, "stuff I like, stuff I don't like." 

Of course, I will always have a soft spot for shoujo comedy like Shugo Chara. You didn't mention this show in your season review. Unfortunately, since it is the best show ever I'm going to have to give you failing marks...sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve become a bit confused as to my taste. It has gotten to the point that I don&#8217;t really consider what the shows are going to be about before a sample. If anything, it comes down to a being like Xee-Rocks!, &#8220;stuff I like, stuff I don&#8217;t like.&#8221; </p>
<p>Of course, I will always have a soft spot for shoujo comedy like Shugo Chara. You didn&#8217;t mention this show in your season review. Unfortunately, since it is the best show ever I&#8217;m going to have to give you failing marks&#8230;sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Xerox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xerox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Orion, I can probably break down shows into two categories: stuff I like, stuff I don't like. XD! Well, shows like Clannad or ef just fall into the 'stuff I don't like' category. I've never been a fan of harems or visual novel adaptation and apparently, the fall season's chock full of 'em. I'm left with Gundam 00 to satisfy my needs. Oh wells, XD! Gundam miesters! Celestial Being! Heero Yuy...I mean Setsuna!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Orion, I can probably break down shows into two categories: stuff I like, stuff I don&#8217;t like. XD! Well, shows like Clannad or ef just fall into the &#8217;stuff I don&#8217;t like&#8217; category. I&#8217;ve never been a fan of harems or visual novel adaptation and apparently, the fall season&#8217;s chock full of &#8216;em. I&#8217;m left with Gundam 00 to satisfy my needs. Oh wells, XD! Gundam miesters! Celestial Being! Heero Yuy&#8230;I mean Setsuna!</p>
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		<title>By: ConcreteBadger</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/11/23/autumn-season-07-preconceptions-and-the-element-of-surprise/#comment-32019</link>
		<dc:creator>ConcreteBadger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Orion: As with any other movies or TV that I watch, I'm getting the impression that there's an invisible 'line' that exists between the really good stuff and the shows that I merely watch for 'of the moment' entertainment value. It makes blogging them all the more important, really, because I'd run the risk of forgetting my thoughts about them otherwise.

@Owen S: I'm afraid my new-found open mindedness wasn't enough to get into Myself;Yourself, although I think my viewing schedule is filled to capacity right now. The very idea of being a member of the Apologist Club is really quite something anyway (if my Love Hina experience was anything to go by it was a matter of time really).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Orion: As with any other movies or TV that I watch, I&#8217;m getting the impression that there&#8217;s an invisible &#8216;line&#8217; that exists between the really good stuff and the shows that I merely watch for &#8216;of the moment&#8217; entertainment value. It makes blogging them all the more important, really, because I&#8217;d run the risk of forgetting my thoughts about them otherwise.</p>
<p>@Owen S: I&#8217;m afraid my new-found open mindedness wasn&#8217;t enough to get into Myself;Yourself, although I think my viewing schedule is filled to capacity right now. The very idea of being a member of the Apologist Club is really quite something anyway (if my Love Hina experience was anything to go by it was a matter of time really).</p>
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		<title>By: Owen S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The irony here is that a season full of shows that aren’t ‘my thing’ actually encouraged me to watch more&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Same here. Although for me it was more of like my favourite bloggers writing about it and my not wanting to be left out of the loop -- so you could say peer-pressure worked for, not against me in that instance.

I've never really been able to take harem seriously, and Myself; Yourself has been a rather humbling experience in that it showed me how not all harems are equal, which should've been obvious (no two shows are equal, period). From its rather bland and harmless beginnings to a drama equal parts nail-biting and touching with promise of School Days/Higurashi-sque action to come, I'm eating humble pie and liking it.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d already learned how to put preconceptions to one side and look past the saucer-sized eyes and saccharine themes; now was the time to put it into practice.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What I want to say here in response can't really be put into words, but the last scene of the TV series of Evangelion with all the characters applauding Shinji works in lieu of that. Congratulations. Welcome to the apologist club. (: The day in which everyone realises that moe is a style, not substance will be a grand day indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The irony here is that a season full of shows that aren’t ‘my thing’ actually encouraged me to watch more</p></blockquote>
<p>Same here. Although for me it was more of like my favourite bloggers writing about it and my not wanting to be left out of the loop &#8212; so you could say peer-pressure worked for, not against me in that instance.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never really been able to take harem seriously, and Myself; Yourself has been a rather humbling experience in that it showed me how not all harems are equal, which should&#8217;ve been obvious (no two shows are equal, period). From its rather bland and harmless beginnings to a drama equal parts nail-biting and touching with promise of School Days/Higurashi-sque action to come, I&#8217;m eating humble pie and liking it.</p>
<blockquote><p>I’d already learned how to put preconceptions to one side and look past the saucer-sized eyes and saccharine themes; now was the time to put it into practice.</p></blockquote>
<p>What I want to say here in response can&#8217;t really be put into words, but the last scene of the TV series of Evangelion with all the characters applauding Shinji works in lieu of that. Congratulations. Welcome to the apologist club. (: The day in which everyone realises that moe is a style, not substance will be a grand day indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: 0rion</title>
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		<dc:creator>0rion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 06:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"This is what can happen when you don’t pay attention to what you’re doing"

I laughed in spite of myself.

Good follow-up on Jeff's reminder to give love...er, anime a chance.  One thing I've learned over the years in my anime/film/TV consumption is that there's two types of shows I enjoy. The first are the Moyashimons and the Ghost Hounds, shows that engage my mind or aesthetic sense. The other are the Lucky Stars, the Minami-kes, or (trainwreck style) the Code Geasses...shows that are just good plain fun. Not exactly high brow, and probably with plot holes big enough to drive trucks through, but entertaining nevertheless after a long day's work. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is what can happen when you don’t pay attention to what you’re doing&#8221;</p>
<p>I laughed in spite of myself.</p>
<p>Good follow-up on Jeff&#8217;s reminder to give love&#8230;er, anime a chance.  One thing I&#8217;ve learned over the years in my anime/film/TV consumption is that there&#8217;s two types of shows I enjoy. The first are the Moyashimons and the Ghost Hounds, shows that engage my mind or aesthetic sense. The other are the Lucky Stars, the Minami-kes, or (trainwreck style) the Code Geasses&#8230;shows that are just good plain fun. Not exactly high brow, and probably with plot holes big enough to drive trucks through, but entertaining nevertheless after a long day&#8217;s work. <img src='http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Anime Diet &#187; Romance, Drama, and Trauma: A Tentative Mid-Season Reflection</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anime Diet &#187; Romance, Drama, and Trauma: A Tentative Mid-Season Reflection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is an Anime Blog Collective post, in conjunction with Roxas, Karura, CCYoshi, Martin, Hige, J. Valdez, Xerox and Owen&#8211;not to mention our very own Ray, whom I&#8217;ve asked to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is an Anime Blog Collective post, in conjunction with Roxas, Karura, CCYoshi, Martin, Hige, J. Valdez, Xerox and Owen&#8211;not to mention our very own Ray, whom I&#8217;ve asked to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: You Must Be Sick of Midseason Reviews By Now. at Riuva : Research Institute for Unicultural Visual Arts</title>
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		<dc:creator>You Must Be Sick of Midseason Reviews By Now. at Riuva : Research Institute for Unicultural Visual Arts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] End of the World - He likes Mokke. Shocking. I suppose it&#8217;s like how some people love plain water while others like beer or iced lemon tea. Or even drain water (Ninomiya-kun). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] End of the World - He likes Mokke. Shocking. I suppose it&#8217;s like how some people love plain water while others like beer or iced lemon tea. Or even drain water (Ninomiya-kun). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: From elitist to apologist: &#8220;Social watching&#8221;, and why Autumn&#8217;s quantity isn&#8217;t a bad thing » Cruel Angel Theses ♪</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/11/23/autumn-season-07-preconceptions-and-the-element-of-surprise/#comment-31864</link>
		<dc:creator>From elitist to apologist: &#8220;Social watching&#8221;, and why Autumn&#8217;s quantity isn&#8217;t a bad thing » Cruel Angel Theses ♪</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this post happens to be party to. Others taking part in this include Roxas, Mike, Karura, CCYoshi, Martin, Hige, J. Valdez, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anime Diet &#187; Fall 2007 season - the fall of Otaku</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anime Diet &#187; Fall 2007 season - the fall of Otaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CCYoshi - http://ccy-eternity.blogspot.com/2007/11/being-on-frontlines-of-anime.html Martin - http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/11/23/autumn-season-07-preconceptions-and-the-element-of-su... Hige - http://hvo.typepad.com/hvo/2007/11/the-autumn-seas.html J. Valdez - [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] CCYoshi - <a href="http://ccy-eternity.blogspot.com/2007/11/being-on-frontlines-of-anime.html" rel="nofollow">http://ccy-eternity.blogspot.com/2007/11/being-on-frontlines-of-anime.html</a> Martin - <a href="http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/11/23/autumn-season-07-preconceptions-and-the-element-of-su.." rel="nofollow">http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/11/23/autumn-season-07-preconceptions-and-the-element-of-su..</a>. Hige - <a href="http://hvo.typepad.com/hvo/2007/11/the-autumn-seas.html" rel="nofollow">http://hvo.typepad.com/hvo/2007/11/the-autumn-seas.html</a> J. Valdez - [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nirai kanai &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Woah! We&#8217;re halfway there! Woah! Livin&#8217; on a prayer!</title>
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		<dc:creator>nirai kanai &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Woah! We&#8217;re halfway there! Woah! Livin&#8217; on a prayer!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mike Kaura CCYoshi Martin Hige J.Valdez Owen [...]</description>
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