Comments on: Macross Frontier 1: First Impressions http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/ Get decultured Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:51:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Macross Frontier: Hands in the Air « The Animanachronism http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-45922 Macross Frontier: Hands in the Air « The Animanachronism Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:32:46 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-45922 [...] nothing about Macross, so all I heard was ‘raaaagh raaaagh Plus raaaagh’. That, and the revelation that Martin knew things about, and liked, this ‘Macross’ thing, opened up the prospect [...] [...] nothing about Macross, so all I heard was ‘raaaagh raaaagh Plus raaaagh’. That, and the revelation that Martin knew things about, and liked, this ‘Macross’ thing, opened up the prospect [...]

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]]> By: ConcreteBadger http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-35587 ConcreteBadger Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:42:49 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-35587 @Hige: Zero was one of my earliest fansub experiences too, but since it's such a pret-yet-shallow experience I don't know how much reviewing I could manage before resorting to a series of screencaps. I might give that one a rewatch sometime soon as well. @Hige: Zero was one of my earliest fansub experiences too, but since it’s such a pret-yet-shallow experience I don’t know how much reviewing I could manage before resorting to a series of screencaps. I might give that one a rewatch sometime soon as well.

]]> By: Hige http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-35536 Hige Sun, 30 Dec 2007 04:28:42 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-35536 Definitely a pleasant surprise when it popped up on AnimeSuki. I wouldn't call myself a Macross man in the same way you do, but I certainly have a stronger connection to it than Gundam. It's just so much more sophist, as the kids might say. Zero was one of the first shows/OAV I reviewed on my blog, and while it's paper-thin in many ways I will hold it dear to my heart because I'm a shameless victim of nostalgia. I hope Frontier will improve on the areas Zero lacked while retaining all its sexiness. So far so good... Definitely a pleasant surprise when it popped up on AnimeSuki. I wouldn’t call myself a Macross man in the same way you do, but I certainly have a stronger connection to it than Gundam. It’s just so much more sophist, as the kids might say. Zero was one of the first shows/OAV I reviewed on my blog, and while it’s paper-thin in many ways I will hold it dear to my heart because I’m a shameless victim of nostalgia. I hope Frontier will improve on the areas Zero lacked while retaining all its sexiness. So far so good…

]]> By: ConcreteBadger http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-35484 ConcreteBadger Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:17:43 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-35484 @Hidoshi: I can really see Alto's character growing on me. It's a great way to end the episode. @IKnight: there's a lot more to Macross than the mecha - I'd recommend Plus because it's a great dramatic piece with superb music in between the combat scenes. I might actually pick up the box set of the original series and watch that before the rest of Frontier airs. @centzon totochtin: the budget. Oh yes. As for the music, we didn't hear a great deal in the first ep so I'm still holding out for more Kanno goodness. The end theme really is a pleasant number. @Jounin: ah, a mecha nut! Yeah, I was hoping for some sort of evolution for the '25, especially with the '21's brain interface control system (it was after all the emotional instability of the pilot that caused the problems, not the plane itself) and the '19's cockpit. A model that combines elements of both would be pretty sweet. Anyway, we'll just have to see what the '25 and Alto are capable of. @Hidoshi: I can really see Alto’s character growing on me. It’s a great way to end the episode.

@IKnight: there’s a lot more to Macross than the mecha - I’d recommend Plus because it’s a great dramatic piece with superb music in between the combat scenes. I might actually pick up the box set of the original series and watch that before the rest of Frontier airs.

@centzon totochtin: the budget. Oh yes. As for the music, we didn’t hear a great deal in the first ep so I’m still holding out for more Kanno goodness. The end theme really is a pleasant number.

@Jounin: ah, a mecha nut! Yeah, I was hoping for some sort of evolution for the ‘25, especially with the ’21’s brain interface control system (it was after all the emotional instability of the pilot that caused the problems, not the plane itself) and the ’19’s cockpit. A model that combines elements of both would be pretty sweet. Anyway, we’ll just have to see what the ‘25 and Alto are capable of.

]]> By: Jounin http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-35459 Jounin Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:52:16 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-35459 The mecha in Macross are not called Veritechs. That term was only used by the english-version Robotech. The more proper term for Macross is just variable fighters. The name Valkyrie was a nickname for the VF-1 model like how in modern days the F-14 was given the nickname Tomcat. Also, the VF-25 feels like a step backward to me when compared to the YF-19 or the YF-21. The new VF doesn't have a 360-degree cockpit that the YF-19 had but can be seen in the VF-171s that were getting blown away by the aliens. And it doesn't look like the VF-25 has any internal missile bays or pinpoint barrier system (who knows if the active stealth works against aliens). I read somewhere that the VF-25 is more of a successor to the old VF-1 and is basically just faster and more maneuverable, but who knows compared to Plus. To centzon, people don't just get turned inside out when exposed to hard vacuum let alone a decrease in pressure. While internal pressure will cause more delicate tissue like the eyes to burst, you more likely suffocate first before dying of anything else. Also, relative to the size of the dome and internal space of the Frontier ship, the hole the alien punched wasn't that large and would take a lot of time to vent all of that air from that one hole. So the people will feel at most a breeze and the ship probably has an internal store of oxygen to pump into the ship. Also, you see a gel filling in the hole as the VF-25 is flying through it, quickly stopping any more air from leaving the ship. The mecha in Macross are not called Veritechs. That term was only used by the english-version Robotech. The more proper term for Macross is just variable fighters. The name Valkyrie was a nickname for the VF-1 model like how in modern days the F-14 was given the nickname Tomcat.

Also, the VF-25 feels like a step backward to me when compared to the YF-19 or the YF-21. The new VF doesn’t have a 360-degree cockpit that the YF-19 had but can be seen in the VF-171s that were getting blown away by the aliens. And it doesn’t look like the VF-25 has any internal missile bays or pinpoint barrier system (who knows if the active stealth works against aliens). I read somewhere that the VF-25 is more of a successor to the old VF-1 and is basically just faster and more maneuverable, but who knows compared to Plus.

To centzon, people don’t just get turned inside out when exposed to hard vacuum let alone a decrease in pressure. While internal pressure will cause more delicate tissue like the eyes to burst, you more likely suffocate first before dying of anything else. Also, relative to the size of the dome and internal space of the Frontier ship, the hole the alien punched wasn’t that large and would take a lot of time to vent all of that air from that one hole. So the people will feel at most a breeze and the ship probably has an internal store of oxygen to pump into the ship. Also, you see a gel filling in the hole as the VF-25 is flying through it, quickly stopping any more air from leaving the ship.

]]> By: Hidoshi http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-35441 Hidoshi Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:16:56 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-35441 >> centzon I get the impression that there's an atmospheric layer between the residents and the vacuum. It's not an O'neill Cylinder like Gundam uses, so there's more chance that the atmosphere would have to vent first for full de-pressurisation. Plus there could be other forces at work (energy shields, etc). I'm sure there's an explanation either extant or forthcoming. That isn't the sort of technical detail Kawamori would overlook, after all. >> centzon
I get the impression that there’s an atmospheric layer between the residents and the vacuum. It’s not an O’neill Cylinder like Gundam uses, so there’s more chance that the atmosphere would have to vent first for full de-pressurisation. Plus there could be other forces at work (energy shields, etc). I’m sure there’s an explanation either extant or forthcoming. That isn’t the sort of technical detail Kawamori would overlook, after all.

]]> By: centzon totochtin http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-35438 centzon totochtin Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:03:53 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-35438 heh the music wasn't the best I've heard from Yoko Kanno, but the gig atmosphere mixed with Arrogant Blokes getting Killed in Space Battle was an awesome scene. The end theme was beautifully strange also. She just needs to start working with the woman who sang the Bebop songs next time she gets these opportunities to write for intergalactic rock stars... I loved how he got pissed off every time someone implied he looked like a girl.. Bishies are ok so long as they dont fancy themselves, and are able to go psychotic/mental when required. His perpetually-blushing ginger friend confused me though; is he meant to be constantly horny or is it just a strange character design... and I liked how the green-haired girl came across as being drunk or tripping instead of just a weak little princess, twas an improved twist on the anime-girl-needing-to-be-rescued cliche :D And the BUDGET! I still dont get why they all didnt get turned inside out when the dome/biosphere thing got a hole smashed in it though.. x heh
the music wasn’t the best I’ve heard from Yoko Kanno, but the gig atmosphere mixed with Arrogant Blokes getting Killed in Space Battle was an awesome scene. The end theme was beautifully strange also. She just needs to start working with the woman who sang the Bebop songs next time she gets these opportunities to write for intergalactic rock stars…

I loved how he got pissed off every time someone implied he looked like a girl.. Bishies are ok so long as they dont fancy themselves, and are able to go psychotic/mental when required. His perpetually-blushing ginger friend confused me though; is he meant to be constantly horny or is it just a strange character design…

and I liked how the green-haired girl came across as being drunk or tripping instead of just a weak little princess, twas an improved twist on the anime-girl-needing-to-be-rescued cliche :D
And the BUDGET!

I still dont get why they all didnt get turned inside out when the dome/biosphere thing got a hole smashed in it though..
x

]]> By: IKnight http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-35431 IKnight Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:13:12 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-35431 I am not a <em>Macross</em> fan, not through dislike but through ignorance, but this sounds like it might be worth my time . . . the wait for the rest of the series sounds like the <em>Code Geass</em> scheduling (whether intentional or not), but reversed. I am not a Macross fan, not through dislike but through ignorance, but this sounds like it might be worth my time . . . the wait for the rest of the series sounds like the Code Geass scheduling (whether intentional or not), but reversed.

]]> By: Hidoshi http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-35425 Hidoshi Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:05:56 +0000 http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2007/12/28/macross-frontier-1-first-impressions/#comment-35425 I think that's the main thing: Alto doesn't stay emo or typical bishie for long. That ending scene? Whoo! I love it! Just up and GARRRRRRR! I agree with the music. It's unfortunate really, but then Minmei had her flops too. I still hate <em>Zero G Love</em>. I think that’s the main thing: Alto doesn’t stay emo or typical bishie for long. That ending scene? Whoo! I love it! Just up and GARRRRRRR!

I agree with the music. It’s unfortunate really, but then Minmei had her flops too. I still hate Zero G Love.

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