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	<title>Comments on: Allison to Lillia and the Fiona arc: where I do literary criticism and make fun of plot holes</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/06/02/allison-to-lillia-and-the-fiona-arc-where-i-do-literary-criticism-and-make-fun-of-plot-holes/#comment-45300</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TheBigN: if I look at this series as one intended for a younger audience I suppose the plot holes aren't as bad. Still, Miyazaki movies and stuff like Denno Coil still have watertight storylines and ideas, despite being geared for kids. Like you, the characters and gorgeous OP theme are what keep me watching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TheBigN: if I look at this series as one intended for a younger audience I suppose the plot holes aren&#8217;t as bad. Still, Miyazaki movies and stuff like Denno Coil still have watertight storylines and ideas, despite being geared for kids. Like you, the characters and gorgeous OP theme are what keep me watching.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBigN</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheBigN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's times like episode 8 that I remember "lol kids show", not that that means not criticizing it for their faults, but that the way they're writing it fits that sort of audience.  I'm sure if I was 7 or 8, I wouldn't mind the plotholes and silly plans that I saw. That being said, it was hilarious how things were executed, and I'm still going to watch the show as I've done: for the characters. And the OP. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s times like episode 8 that I remember &#8220;lol kids show&#8221;, not that that means not criticizing it for their faults, but that the way they&#8217;re writing it fits that sort of audience.  I&#8217;m sure if I was 7 or 8, I wouldn&#8217;t mind the plotholes and silly plans that I saw. That being said, it was hilarious how things were executed, and I&#8217;m still going to watch the show as I&#8217;ve done: for the characters. And the OP. <img src='http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Heterochromia - Looking back at one week in the blogosphere #3</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/06/02/allison-to-lillia-and-the-fiona-arc-where-i-do-literary-criticism-and-make-fun-of-plot-holes/#comment-45288</link>
		<dc:creator>Heterochromia - Looking back at one week in the blogosphere #3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the few people who are watching Allison and Lillia, Martin has an extensive comment on how badly executed the story telling is. After reading this, I realized with what kind of eye [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the few people who are watching Allison and Lillia, Martin has an extensive comment on how badly executed the story telling is. After reading this, I realized with what kind of eye [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@usagijen: it's times like this when I wish I was able to read the original text, because I doubt there will be an english language edition (even the release schedule of the Kino novels seems to have stalled).

@Michael: yep, the same Wil who seemed to be sleepwalking through the entire arc and deliver the answer towards the end in grand style. I did think he was intelligent in a bookish sense but as thick as two short planks otherwise; at this point I'm starting to see him differently.
&lt;blockquote&gt;kaze ex machina&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Nice example of mixing loan words. I like it! ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@usagijen: it&#8217;s times like this when I wish I was able to read the original text, because I doubt there will be an english language edition (even the release schedule of the Kino novels seems to have stalled).</p>
<p>@Michael: yep, the same Wil who seemed to be sleepwalking through the entire arc and deliver the answer towards the end in grand style. I did think he was intelligent in a bookish sense but as thick as two short planks otherwise; at this point I&#8217;m starting to see him differently.</p>
<blockquote><p>kaze ex machina</p></blockquote>
<p>Nice example of mixing loan words. I like it! ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is some logic to Allison and Wil running to the airplane: they couldn't do anything useful on the ground that the dozen or so security guards couldn't do better, and the guards were much closer. What they could do, which nobody else could do, was get airborne. There was a slight but real chance this could be useful - e.g. to be able to follow an escaping ground vehicle. 

In the event, they provided a kaze ex machina which blew the bad guy off the roof.

P.S. a couple more plot holes:

Why did Bad Guy burn kidnap the princess, burn the palace etc. in the first place? 10 years on, he is on track to political power, but there isn't any indication of how or whether his crime facilitated this.

How did Princess Francesca come to be taken to Fiona's village (unscarred, despite the fire) to die? Given that she was, why did the royalists not do the Fraancesca/Fiona exchange at this time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is some logic to Allison and Wil running to the airplane: they couldn&#8217;t do anything useful on the ground that the dozen or so security guards couldn&#8217;t do better, and the guards were much closer. What they could do, which nobody else could do, was get airborne. There was a slight but real chance this could be useful - e.g. to be able to follow an escaping ground vehicle. </p>
<p>In the event, they provided a kaze ex machina which blew the bad guy off the roof.</p>
<p>P.S. a couple more plot holes:</p>
<p>Why did Bad Guy burn kidnap the princess, burn the palace etc. in the first place? 10 years on, he is on track to political power, but there isn&#8217;t any indication of how or whether his crime facilitated this.</p>
<p>How did Princess Francesca come to be taken to Fiona&#8217;s village (unscarred, despite the fire) to die? Given that she was, why did the royalists not do the Fraancesca/Fiona exchange at this time?</p>
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		<title>By: usagijen</title>
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		<dc:creator>usagijen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wait what, did Owen just call for me? o.o

I can get the source novels for this, but I'd have to let someone else read it for me lolz. Unless I get really interested and I find myself sitting through it and actually reading it. Let me see what I can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait what, did Owen just call for me? o.o</p>
<p>I can get the source novels for this, but I&#8217;d have to let someone else read it for me lolz. Unless I get really interested and I find myself sitting through it and actually reading it. Let me see what I can do.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still love this series, but I was finding the plot holes rather glaring. (I'm currently classifying it as "now with fewer plot holes that Harry Potter!" but let's not get distracted into HP criticism.) It is frustrating that a series which excels so much in other ways has such a glaring but fairly easy to fix flaw.

"normally ‘good as gold but thick as mud’ Wil"

Have you been watching the same Wil as I have? He is a nerd who also happens to be fit and good at target shooting. He's alway been the brains of the outfit, while Allison does the enthusiasm and action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still love this series, but I was finding the plot holes rather glaring. (I&#8217;m currently classifying it as &#8220;now with fewer plot holes that Harry Potter!&#8221; but let&#8217;s not get distracted into HP criticism.) It is frustrating that a series which excels so much in other ways has such a glaring but fairly easy to fix flaw.</p>
<p>&#8220;normally ‘good as gold but thick as mud’ Wil&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you been watching the same Wil as I have? He is a nerd who also happens to be fit and good at target shooting. He&#8217;s alway been the brains of the outfit, while Allison does the enthusiasm and action.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hanners:
&lt;blockquote&gt;...an anime equivalent of Mystery Science Theater 3000…&lt;/blockquote&gt;
They're called Epic Win iirc, but sadly they seem to have suffered a relapse of Hiatus Disease! The Golgo 13 movie does have the Huerrgh! factor going for it I guess, but this arc really did make me laugh for all the wrong reasons at points.

@Karura: Good to hear it! I look forward to the lulz that will ensure. *thumbs up*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hanners:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;an anime equivalent of Mystery Science Theater 3000…</p></blockquote>
<p>They&#8217;re called Epic Win iirc, but sadly they seem to have suffered a relapse of Hiatus Disease! The Golgo 13 movie does have the Huerrgh! factor going for it I guess, but this arc really did make me laugh for all the wrong reasons at points.</p>
<p>@Karura: Good to hear it! I look forward to the lulz that will ensure. *thumbs up*</p>
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		<title>By: Karura</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/06/02/allison-to-lillia-and-the-fiona-arc-where-i-do-literary-criticism-and-make-fun-of-plot-holes/#comment-44888</link>
		<dc:creator>Karura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the good news is that after the hilarious awfulness of this arc I've realised I would be derelict in my duty if I didn't parody it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the good news is that after the hilarious awfulness of this arc I&#8217;ve realised I would be derelict in my duty if I didn&#8217;t parody it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hanners</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/06/02/allison-to-lillia-and-the-fiona-arc-where-i-do-literary-criticism-and-make-fun-of-plot-holes/#comment-44839</link>
		<dc:creator>Hanners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, blow for blow I wouldn't put this in the Golgo 13 movie category of awfulness, but it is the worst thing I've watched as far as plot holes go, which just makes it more conspicuous than most types of anime badness. :P  It's the kind of thing that makes you wish for an anime equivalent of Mystery Science Theater 3000...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, blow for blow I wouldn&#8217;t put this in the Golgo 13 movie category of awfulness, but it is the worst thing I&#8217;ve watched as far as plot holes go, which just makes it more conspicuous than most types of anime badness. <img src='http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#8217;s the kind of thing that makes you wish for an anime equivalent of Mystery Science Theater 3000&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/06/02/allison-to-lillia-and-the-fiona-arc-where-i-do-literary-criticism-and-make-fun-of-plot-holes/#comment-44837</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dm: I do wonder whether Sigsawa is one of those writers who is more comfortable with short stories than longer novels. Conceptually Kino was solid but Nakamura's direction really brought it to life. Interesting point on Allison's character though - maybe writers give themselves a break by writing about polar opposite characters to keep the creativity flowing?

@Sagacious1: I like that theory. It implies that Ben and Fi were sheltered by the open door or something, but it sure makes more sense than the guy just falling.

@Hanners: the BGM and end theme are a but meh but the op is superb. For reference, &lt;a href="http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/02/10/epic-fail-the-worst-anime-ever/" rel="nofollow"&gt;this &lt;/a&gt;is the worst anime I've seen...surely you don't think this is worse than Golgo 13?! 0_o

@IKnight: it does indeed have a lot of potential. As for the planes, they're 1930s era, so a wee bit slower than, say, WWII era models. I'll give your mini-blog post a read and a comment in a bit.

@Ez: I did start to wonder where the knives were coming from. In that sort of politics, aren't they used for stabbing rivals in the back? :P

@Owen: if you took English as far as A level you still have two years on me since my education was pure science post-16 (a decision I regret to this day). Agreed that I really need to read the original novels though - not only for curiosity's sake but to get firm evidence as to whether it's a sloppy adaptation of a good story or a faithful adaptation of a bad one. Even if it is the latter, what is stopping them deciding "I don't like the way this bit reads. Let's change it."?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dm: I do wonder whether Sigsawa is one of those writers who is more comfortable with short stories than longer novels. Conceptually Kino was solid but Nakamura&#8217;s direction really brought it to life. Interesting point on Allison&#8217;s character though - maybe writers give themselves a break by writing about polar opposite characters to keep the creativity flowing?</p>
<p>@Sagacious1: I like that theory. It implies that Ben and Fi were sheltered by the open door or something, but it sure makes more sense than the guy just falling.</p>
<p>@Hanners: the BGM and end theme are a but meh but the op is superb. For reference, <a href="http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/02/10/epic-fail-the-worst-anime-ever/" rel="nofollow">this </a>is the worst anime I&#8217;ve seen&#8230;surely you don&#8217;t think this is worse than Golgo 13?! 0_o</p>
<p>@IKnight: it does indeed have a lot of potential. As for the planes, they&#8217;re 1930s era, so a wee bit slower than, say, WWII era models. I&#8217;ll give your mini-blog post a read and a comment in a bit.</p>
<p>@Ez: I did start to wonder where the knives were coming from. In that sort of politics, aren&#8217;t they used for stabbing rivals in the back? <img src='http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Owen: if you took English as far as A level you still have two years on me since my education was pure science post-16 (a decision I regret to this day). Agreed that I really need to read the original novels though - not only for curiosity&#8217;s sake but to get firm evidence as to whether it&#8217;s a sloppy adaptation of a good story or a faithful adaptation of a bad one. Even if it is the latter, what is stopping them deciding &#8220;I don&#8217;t like the way this bit reads. Let&#8217;s change it.&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Owen S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, what? I'm sorry, but my literary criticism powers, whatever they are, go no further than the A-Levels. Honestly, at this point what we need is the source material to refer to, since there's a chance that the director could be doing the old paint-by-numbers routine, only instead of making it as imaginative and interesting as the text, he's playing it safe. Jen, you game for this?

Which brings to mind &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; episode of ZSZS where you had Itoshiki and his students taking the mickey out of directors who did unimaginative works and then said in their defence that they were "just following the original!". 

(I'd say "Art imitating art", but I'm more concerned about whether or not I used that bit of Brit slang properly more than anything)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, what? I&#8217;m sorry, but my literary criticism powers, whatever they are, go no further than the A-Levels. Honestly, at this point what we need is the source material to refer to, since there&#8217;s a chance that the director could be doing the old paint-by-numbers routine, only instead of making it as imaginative and interesting as the text, he&#8217;s playing it safe. Jen, you game for this?</p>
<p>Which brings to mind <em>that</em> episode of ZSZS where you had Itoshiki and his students taking the mickey out of directors who did unimaginative works and then said in their defence that they were &#8220;just following the original!&#8221;. </p>
<p>(I&#8217;d say &#8220;Art imitating art&#8221;, but I&#8217;m more concerned about whether or not I used that bit of Brit slang properly more than anything)</p>
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		<title>By: dm</title>
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		<dc:creator>dm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think Nihito was pushed off the top of the building by Francesca's ghost.

Allison is like the anti-Kino.  Kino was a quiet observer, when she chose to act, she did so cooly and effectively.  Allison, in contrast, is quick to act and heedless.  But I keep watching the series for her and clueless Wil.

Whoever made the OP also knows what they're doing --- the OP alone has better direction than much of the series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think Nihito was pushed off the top of the building by Francesca&#8217;s ghost.</p>
<p>Allison is like the anti-Kino.  Kino was a quiet observer, when she chose to act, she did so cooly and effectively.  Allison, in contrast, is quick to act and heedless.  But I keep watching the series for her and clueless Wil.</p>
<p>Whoever made the OP also knows what they&#8217;re doing &#8212; the OP alone has better direction than much of the series.</p>
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		<title>By: Ez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[One more plot hole that I’ve seen pointed out quite a bit in episode 8 is, “Where is Nihito getting all these knives from?” He stabs one in failguard’s leg, leaves it, then has another one for Benedict’s watch. Was he /planning/ on having to stab a bunch of people in non-lethal ways?]\

Exactly my thought. The guy was carrying two huge knives at his own conference. I don't know about you but that seems pretty irrelevant seeing that for safety he might as well have brought guns or something else. 

On the off side, I got this funny moment where I thought he was Rambo or something. xD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[One more plot hole that I’ve seen pointed out quite a bit in episode 8 is, “Where is Nihito getting all these knives from?” He stabs one in failguard’s leg, leaves it, then has another one for Benedict’s watch. Was he /planning/ on having to stab a bunch of people in non-lethal ways?]\</p>
<p>Exactly my thought. The guy was carrying two huge knives at his own conference. I don&#8217;t know about you but that seems pretty irrelevant seeing that for safety he might as well have brought guns or something else. </p>
<p>On the off side, I got this funny moment where I thought he was Rambo or something. xD</p>
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		<title>By: IKnight</title>
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		<dc:creator>IKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a shame, because by the sound of your previous posts on the series it had (and still has?) some serious potential (and anime doesn't have enough biplane action).

A real pedant might complain about anagnorisis, but to be honest I don't have a problem with your use of it here, especially since &lt;em&gt;Allison to Lillia&lt;/em&gt; is (presumably) not a Greek tragedy. And that list of grievances was pretty amusing - though I think running men might have been able to keep up with really early aircraft take-offs, but I'm guessing the biplanes in this show are a bit more developed than that.

Also this post provoked some lengthier thoughts which I felt would be out of place if I just dumped them in these comments, so they &lt;a title="On Storytelling" href="http://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=11083" rel="nofollow"&gt;went in the MAL blog&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a shame, because by the sound of your previous posts on the series it had (and still has?) some serious potential (and anime doesn&#8217;t have enough biplane action).</p>
<p>A real pedant might complain about anagnorisis, but to be honest I don&#8217;t have a problem with your use of it here, especially since <em>Allison to Lillia</em> is (presumably) not a Greek tragedy. And that list of grievances was pretty amusing - though I think running men might have been able to keep up with really early aircraft take-offs, but I&#8217;m guessing the biplanes in this show are a bit more developed than that.</p>
<p>Also this post provoked some lengthier thoughts which I felt would be out of place if I just dumped them in these comments, so they <a title="On Storytelling" href="http://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=11083" rel="nofollow">went in the MAL blog</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Hanners</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been destroying this series piece by piece for weeks on my 'Blog so I won't regurgitate any of my bile towards it here (especially seeing as you've picked up on all the massive plot holes anyway), although I have to admit I've been enjoying some of its unintentional hilarity. 

Unfortunately I haven't been too excited by the plots seen thus far, and I loathe the music to boot (it really isn't my scene) so I've come away with an impression that doesn't fall all that far short of WORST. ANIME. EVAR. ;)

Sagacious is right though I think, Nihito gets blown off the roof by the wind from Allison's plane.  Which, to be honest, is pretty hilarious in itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been destroying this series piece by piece for weeks on my &#8216;Blog so I won&#8217;t regurgitate any of my bile towards it here (especially seeing as you&#8217;ve picked up on all the massive plot holes anyway), although I have to admit I&#8217;ve been enjoying some of its unintentional hilarity. </p>
<p>Unfortunately I haven&#8217;t been too excited by the plots seen thus far, and I loathe the music to boot (it really isn&#8217;t my scene) so I&#8217;ve come away with an impression that doesn&#8217;t fall all that far short of WORST. ANIME. EVAR. <img src='http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sagacious is right though I think, Nihito gets blown off the roof by the wind from Allison&#8217;s plane.  Which, to be honest, is pretty hilarious in itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Absolutely Steve</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more plot hole that I've seen pointed out quite a bit in episode 8 is, "Where is Nihito getting all these knives from?" He stabs one in failguard's leg, leaves it, then has another one for Benedict's watch. Was he /planning/ on having to stab a bunch of people in non-lethal ways?

Although I certainly feel your pain on this series and have toyed with the idea of dropping it myself. 'Tis a shame since I like the characters of Allison and Wil so much, but outside of the people doing the music and art no one seems to have the slightest clue what they're doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more plot hole that I&#8217;ve seen pointed out quite a bit in episode 8 is, &#8220;Where is Nihito getting all these knives from?&#8221; He stabs one in failguard&#8217;s leg, leaves it, then has another one for Benedict&#8217;s watch. Was he /planning/ on having to stab a bunch of people in non-lethal ways?</p>
<p>Although I certainly feel your pain on this series and have toyed with the idea of dropping it myself. &#8216;Tis a shame since I like the characters of Allison and Wil so much, but outside of the people doing the music and art no one seems to have the slightest clue what they&#8217;re doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sagacious1</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your plot-hole observations were a hoot, but I'm pretty sure Nihito fell from the wind gusts caused by Allison's plane. I don't know if that's plausible, since Fi and Benny didn't seem all that bothered by it. Still, it sure as hell makes more sense than him getting a random case of vertigo or his cerebellum suddenly exploding completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your plot-hole observations were a hoot, but I&#8217;m pretty sure Nihito fell from the wind gusts caused by Allison&#8217;s plane. I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s plausible, since Fi and Benny didn&#8217;t seem all that bothered by it. Still, it sure as hell makes more sense than him getting a random case of vertigo or his cerebellum suddenly exploding completely.</p>
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		<title>By: dm</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, aspects of this series are dreadful.

I've been wondering about the novels, myself.  The thing is that &lt;i&gt;Kino&lt;/i&gt; consists of a series of short-stories (fables, really), not novels.  So I suppose the answer to the question: "Would the author of the &lt;i&gt;Kino&lt;/i&gt; stories make these mistakes?" is, "Maybe".

Still, I've seen blog comments on the series that complained that the richness of the first novel was completely lost in the first story-arc, so maybe the novels really are much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, aspects of this series are dreadful.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been wondering about the novels, myself.  The thing is that <i>Kino</i> consists of a series of short-stories (fables, really), not novels.  So I suppose the answer to the question: &#8220;Would the author of the <i>Kino</i> stories make these mistakes?&#8221; is, &#8220;Maybe&#8221;.</p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;ve seen blog comments on the series that complained that the richness of the first novel was completely lost in the first story-arc, so maybe the novels really are much better.</p>
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