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	<title>Comments on: Eve no Jikan (Time of Eve) act02: Sammy</title>
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	<description>Get decultured</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rena</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-46071</link>
		<dc:creator>Rena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for the website link and the reviews! Right now Playstation Home on the Japanese server is showing the series in the theater. I just watched the first ep, was very interested with what little I could understand (I've only taken some Japanese at this point, so much of the verbal communication was a little lost on me) and have been trying to find out more.

English version of the site is very good to know, I can watch it again and know more of what is going on. I love the event though, they are showing an episode on the hour so everyone is seeing it at the same time. Most of the time streams start once you enter the room and it loads. Each week I think they're showing a new one? So far it's alternating between Sammy and Akiko.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for the website link and the reviews! Right now Playstation Home on the Japanese server is showing the series in the theater. I just watched the first ep, was very interested with what little I could understand (I&#8217;ve only taken some Japanese at this point, so much of the verbal communication was a little lost on me) and have been trying to find out more.</p>
<p>English version of the site is very good to know, I can watch it again and know more of what is going on. I love the event though, they are showing an episode on the hour so everyone is seeing it at the same time. Most of the time streams start once you enter the room and it loads. Each week I think they&#8217;re showing a new one? So far it&#8217;s alternating between Sammy and Akiko.</p>
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		<title>By: K.O.chan</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45921</link>
		<dc:creator>K.O.chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>** Can I order one EvBlend please? **

Lol. After watching the first 2 episodes, the scenery and world of time of eve have captured my imagination. Really. The art reminds me once again of Makoto Shinkai's 5CM. Awesome work for an indie-type production company. I wouldn't mind waiting for the other episodes, now that I know how much dedication and hard-work they've shown in producing quality anime like this. And oh.. My guess is that Nagi must be an evolved type of android with almost-human capabilities ^_~

- KO-chan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>** Can I order one EvBlend please? **</p>
<p>Lol. After watching the first 2 episodes, the scenery and world of time of eve have captured my imagination. Really. The art reminds me once again of Makoto Shinkai&#8217;s 5CM. Awesome work for an indie-type production company. I wouldn&#8217;t mind waiting for the other episodes, now that I know how much dedication and hard-work they&#8217;ve shown in producing quality anime like this. And oh.. My guess is that Nagi must be an evolved type of android with almost-human capabilities ^_~</p>
<p>- KO-chan</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45856</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Martin,

Thank you for the go-ahead! We posted the link on the Time of Eve page on Crunchyroll. BTW, streaming of episode 3 began a few days ago; episode 4 release is scheduled for April 2009. It's a long wait, but it'll be worth it : )

Best,
Ann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Martin,</p>
<p>Thank you for the go-ahead! We posted the link on the Time of Eve page on Crunchyroll. BTW, streaming of episode 3 began a few days ago; episode 4 release is scheduled for April 2009. It&#8217;s a long wait, but it&#8217;ll be worth it : )</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Ann</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45849</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ann: go right ahead! It's an honour to be considered for a link - the more people hear about this series the better so I'm happy to help to spread the word. I'm looking forward to watching the next episode too! ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ann: go right ahead! It&#8217;s an honour to be considered for a link - the more people hear about this series the better so I&#8217;m happy to help to spread the word. I&#8217;m looking forward to watching the next episode too! ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Martin,

I'm writing to say 'hello' from Directions, Inc., producers of Yoshiura's work, including the "Time of Eve" series. 

If you don't mind, we'd like to link to your site from the Time of Eve page on Crunchyroll (our primary streaming platform and community for the series). Would this be okay with you?

It's really a pleasure to read about Yoshiura's work as seen through your eyes. You are the kind of critic that creators dream of, and we look forward to your future reflections, insights and critiques of "Time of Eve" and other works in the vast worlds of anime and manga.

with much respect,
Ann
Directions, Inc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Martin,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m writing to say &#8216;hello&#8217; from Directions, Inc., producers of Yoshiura&#8217;s work, including the &#8220;Time of Eve&#8221; series. </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t mind, we&#8217;d like to link to your site from the Time of Eve page on Crunchyroll (our primary streaming platform and community for the series). Would this be okay with you?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really a pleasure to read about Yoshiura&#8217;s work as seen through your eyes. You are the kind of critic that creators dream of, and we look forward to your future reflections, insights and critiques of &#8220;Time of Eve&#8221; and other works in the vast worlds of anime and manga.</p>
<p>with much respect,<br />
Ann<br />
Directions, Inc.</p>
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		<title>By: ghostlightning</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghostlightning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh wow, time to look for this anime!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh wow, time to look for this anime!</p>
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		<title>By: Xerox</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45684</link>
		<dc:creator>Xerox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came over to your blog for a completely different reason but was seriously distracted by this post, XD! I have to see this now, in fact both episodes are downloading. I'm already in love with the concept and the aesthetic, your post sealed the deal for me.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Xeroxs last blog post..&lt;a href="http://niraikanai.animeblogger.net/?p=182" rel="nofollow"&gt;Macross Frontier - The End, or Oh god, I’m in love, oh, I’m in love.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came over to your blog for a completely different reason but was seriously distracted by this post, XD! I have to see this now, in fact both episodes are downloading. I&#8217;m already in love with the concept and the aesthetic, your post sealed the deal for me.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Xeroxs last blog post..<a href="http://niraikanai.animeblogger.net/?p=182" rel="nofollow">Macross Frontier - The End, or Oh god, I’m in love, oh, I’m in love.</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45669</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hige: I don't usually read blog posts on stuff I haven't seen either, mainly becaue it's spoilerific, but also because some series drag me into in-depth discussion so much. This one's a case in point.

I'm quite intrigued as to why Nagi's running the cafe - a detailed knowledge of how similar to humans androids are, and how badly they're being treated is the most obvious thing but I'm beginning to formulate a theory relating to the Ethics Committee and their investigations. Could the Time of Eve be playing the part (with or without Nagi's knowledge) of some field experiment into android behaviour and their relationship with humans? I must say though, I've never scratched my head so hard over an anime since, well, Ghost Hound probably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hige: I don&#8217;t usually read blog posts on stuff I haven&#8217;t seen either, mainly becaue it&#8217;s spoilerific, but also because some series drag me into in-depth discussion so much. This one&#8217;s a case in point.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m quite intrigued as to why Nagi&#8217;s running the cafe - a detailed knowledge of how similar to humans androids are, and how badly they&#8217;re being treated is the most obvious thing but I&#8217;m beginning to formulate a theory relating to the Ethics Committee and their investigations. Could the Time of Eve be playing the part (with or without Nagi&#8217;s knowledge) of some field experiment into android behaviour and their relationship with humans? I must say though, I&#8217;ve never scratched my head so hard over an anime since, well, Ghost Hound probably.</p>
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		<title>By: Hige</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45665</link>
		<dc:creator>Hige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phew, I finally get to comment on your post. I'm pretty particular about not reading blogs on a show I haven't seen, so I haven't been as reciprocal for the epic amount of comments you've on my blog lately. Til now :D

But yeah, Nagi's keen perceptiveness goes so far in depicting the sophisticated humanity of the androids in Eve. It's not just a matter of 'omg, it feels love and hate, it's the same as us!!1' but a much more refined, subtle likeness. Which then makes the segregation and abuse they suffer sting all the more. 

Heh, it feels like an age since I've got so carried away thinking about an anime like this. It makes you understand why we spend so much time writing about the medium!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Higes last blog post..&lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/hvo/~3/422354042/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Eve no Jikan – Identity Expressed in a Hairband [Act 2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phew, I finally get to comment on your post. I&#8217;m pretty particular about not reading blogs on a show I haven&#8217;t seen, so I haven&#8217;t been as reciprocal for the epic amount of comments you&#8217;ve on my blog lately. Til now <img src='http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But yeah, Nagi&#8217;s keen perceptiveness goes so far in depicting the sophisticated humanity of the androids in Eve. It&#8217;s not just a matter of &#8216;omg, it feels love and hate, it&#8217;s the same as us!!1&#8242; but a much more refined, subtle likeness. Which then makes the segregation and abuse they suffer sting all the more. </p>
<p>Heh, it feels like an age since I&#8217;ve got so carried away thinking about an anime like this. It makes you understand why we spend so much time writing about the medium!</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Higes last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/hvo/~3/422354042/" rel="nofollow">Eve no Jikan – Identity Expressed in a Hairband [Act 2]</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45661</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kiro: I loved the way that the music is used here - notice how it did a 'vinyl record slowing down' effect at one point? It sets the mood wonderfully I think. A masterpiece indeed.

@TheBigN: cheers for the link - I'll give it a read in a minute. I'm really glad that so many great blog posts are coming out of this - the series didn't make many waves at first but it's becoming more and more popular, which is a really good thing I reckon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kiro: I loved the way that the music is used here - notice how it did a &#8216;vinyl record slowing down&#8217; effect at one point? It sets the mood wonderfully I think. A masterpiece indeed.</p>
<p>@TheBigN: cheers for the link - I&#8217;ll give it a read in a minute. I&#8217;m really glad that so many great blog posts are coming out of this - the series didn&#8217;t make many waves at first but it&#8217;s becoming more and more popular, which is a really good thing I reckon.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBigN</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45657</link>
		<dc:creator>TheBigN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I feel awkward every time Nagi tries to teach Rikuo that he has to pretend that the androids in the room were just like humans.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think it's purposefully meant to be awkward to us as it is to Rikuo. We get the idea that humans and androids are separate entities, so in a way, it's kind of like saying apples and oranges are the same: it depends on how you look at it. You could generally make a case that humans and androids are the same, or at least fit into the same category, but when you get more specific, that statement isn't true. So I think that Nagi's trying to tell Rikuo and Masaki to look at the bigger picture, which takes a while to occur. And repetition on that point does help. :P

I do really want to find out more about why Dori-kei are focused on so much at such a negative light. I think &lt;a href="http://almostahero.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/eve-no-jikan-of-goodness-in-golems/" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; is a starting point about where I'm coming from, with the worry that if Dori-kei were accepted, humans have are forced to recognize how poorly they've been treating androids that seem to have been faithful to them. :3

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;TheBigNs last blog post..&lt;a href="http://bignanime.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/random-ramblings-40-nothing-important-was-lost/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Random Ramblings 4.0: Nothing Important Was Lost&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I feel awkward every time Nagi tries to teach Rikuo that he has to pretend that the androids in the room were just like humans.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think it&#8217;s purposefully meant to be awkward to us as it is to Rikuo. We get the idea that humans and androids are separate entities, so in a way, it&#8217;s kind of like saying apples and oranges are the same: it depends on how you look at it. You could generally make a case that humans and androids are the same, or at least fit into the same category, but when you get more specific, that statement isn&#8217;t true. So I think that Nagi&#8217;s trying to tell Rikuo and Masaki to look at the bigger picture, which takes a while to occur. And repetition on that point does help. <img src='http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I do really want to find out more about why Dori-kei are focused on so much at such a negative light. I think <a href="http://almostahero.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/eve-no-jikan-of-goodness-in-golems/" rel="nofollow">this</a> is a starting point about where I&#8217;m coming from, with the worry that if Dori-kei were accepted, humans have are forced to recognize how poorly they&#8217;ve been treating androids that seem to have been faithful to them. :3</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>TheBigNs last blog post..<a href="http://bignanime.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/random-ramblings-40-nothing-important-was-lost/" rel="nofollow">Random Ramblings 4.0: Nothing Important Was Lost</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: kiro</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45655</link>
		<dc:creator>kiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with most of the posts here.

i usually dont watch this genre of animes - if time of eve could be put into one.

but this series is utterly fantastic, it is a work of art.
the storyline was created with brilliance.

amazing anime and animation. and did u guys notice how precise their
musical choices were? and how they implemented each -in each scene?

it really is a masterpiece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with most of the posts here.</p>
<p>i usually dont watch this genre of animes - if time of eve could be put into one.</p>
<p>but this series is utterly fantastic, it is a work of art.<br />
the storyline was created with brilliance.</p>
<p>amazing anime and animation. and did u guys notice how precise their<br />
musical choices were? and how they implemented each -in each scene?</p>
<p>it really is a masterpiece.</p>
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		<title>By: blissmo</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45644</link>
		<dc:creator>blissmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;&#62;When I first sat down to write this post all I could come up with was the unhelpful “Words cannot express how fantastic this is.”

My thoughts exactly! I was just trying to make a post about the 2nd episode yesterday (I finally got around to watching it), but then, I was just lost for words. And now, having finished reading your post, I can only agree with everything you've written ....

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;blissmos last blog post..&lt;a href="http://yukan.dasaku.net/anime/series-introduction/shikabanehimeaka-01/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Shikabanehime:Aka 01&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;When I first sat down to write this post all I could come up with was the unhelpful “Words cannot express how fantastic this is.”</p>
<p>My thoughts exactly! I was just trying to make a post about the 2nd episode yesterday (I finally got around to watching it), but then, I was just lost for words. And now, having finished reading your post, I can only agree with everything you&#8217;ve written &#8230;.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>blissmos last blog post..<a href="http://yukan.dasaku.net/anime/series-introduction/shikabanehimeaka-01/" rel="nofollow">Shikabanehime:Aka 01</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45638</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@icie: ah, I get it. It certainly explains why the studio are taking so long over this - I remember when stuff like Lightwave impressed everyone with the ability to pan and view objects from different angles; this seems more involved than merely rendering objects in 3D though. While it's easy to get engrossed in the dialogue, I can't help but be impressed with the cinematography used here because it's so immersive; Studio Rikka have some enviable talent. As for Mizu no Kotoba, I'm still in two minds as to whether it was a trial run of sorts for this series - it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Yoshiura and his team took its ideas and expanded on them for this one.

@Sasa: yeah, there's pretty much a post's worth of ideas in your comments alone! *hint, hint* icie explained the camera work well though - it's great at drawing you into what's going on and that 'spaciality' is really effective in making it feel lifelike.

And if anyone I know is planning on opening a coffee bar or book cafe and advertises for full time staff, I'd be there like a shot! Like you, there is something about packaged media that I prefer over downloads for some reason too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@icie: ah, I get it. It certainly explains why the studio are taking so long over this - I remember when stuff like Lightwave impressed everyone with the ability to pan and view objects from different angles; this seems more involved than merely rendering objects in 3D though. While it&#8217;s easy to get engrossed in the dialogue, I can&#8217;t help but be impressed with the cinematography used here because it&#8217;s so immersive; Studio Rikka have some enviable talent. As for Mizu no Kotoba, I&#8217;m still in two minds as to whether it was a trial run of sorts for this series - it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me in the slightest if Yoshiura and his team took its ideas and expanded on them for this one.</p>
<p>@Sasa: yeah, there&#8217;s pretty much a post&#8217;s worth of ideas in your comments alone! *hint, hint* icie explained the camera work well though - it&#8217;s great at drawing you into what&#8217;s going on and that &#8217;spaciality&#8217; is really effective in making it feel lifelike.</p>
<p>And if anyone I know is planning on opening a coffee bar or book cafe and advertises for full time staff, I&#8217;d be there like a shot! Like you, there is something about packaged media that I prefer over downloads for some reason too.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasa</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45635</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Martin: It did turn out to be a long comment O.o Perhaps I am missing blogging and ranting about things? Heh.

I think you've put it greatly into words that we are dealing with prejudices concerning superiority and inferiority. If the androids can have emotions and dispose of intelligence as well, then a society that gives them an inferior standing surely is problematic. With that kind of environment, the Time of Eve is probably the only possibility to create a world where androids would be able feel comfortable.

&lt;blockquote&gt;You mean the shots that look like a hand-held camera?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ah, not really. What I actually meant is the same zooming in and out without visua cuts that icie has described so aptly. It gives the Time of Eve a feeling of spaciality, as if you really are inside of it. After all, in real life, you don't have camera cuts.

When I was younger, I have dreamt of opening a book café, hahaha. Concerning Crunchyroll, I figured that you probably haven't heard of it much before it started selling Gonzo's episodes - before, they were infamous for asking money for fansub downloads, it was quite a debacle. But today, nobody seems to care about that anymore. I, too, would rather buy DVDs rather than downloads just because I like hard copys, but if it turns out there is an anime that I want to see and that is easily available as a buyable download, I will use it.

With all these discussions on this posting, needless to say that I cannot wait for the next episode to come now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Martin: It did turn out to be a long comment O.o Perhaps I am missing blogging and ranting about things? Heh.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ve put it greatly into words that we are dealing with prejudices concerning superiority and inferiority. If the androids can have emotions and dispose of intelligence as well, then a society that gives them an inferior standing surely is problematic. With that kind of environment, the Time of Eve is probably the only possibility to create a world where androids would be able feel comfortable.</p>
<blockquote><p>You mean the shots that look like a hand-held camera?</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, not really. What I actually meant is the same zooming in and out without visua cuts that icie has described so aptly. It gives the Time of Eve a feeling of spaciality, as if you really are inside of it. After all, in real life, you don&#8217;t have camera cuts.</p>
<p>When I was younger, I have dreamt of opening a book café, hahaha. Concerning Crunchyroll, I figured that you probably haven&#8217;t heard of it much before it started selling Gonzo&#8217;s episodes - before, they were infamous for asking money for fansub downloads, it was quite a debacle. But today, nobody seems to care about that anymore. I, too, would rather buy DVDs rather than downloads just because I like hard copys, but if it turns out there is an anime that I want to see and that is easily available as a buyable download, I will use it.</p>
<p>With all these discussions on this posting, needless to say that I cannot wait for the next episode to come now!</p>
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		<title>By: icie</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45632</link>
		<dc:creator>icie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also quite a big fan of the camera methods they used, which is really indicative of the new types of shot transitions possible when using 3D software. This is especially relevant within the confined spaces of the Eve no Jikan cafe, where as Sasa says, the camera effortlessly zooms in on the action from an original position providing an overview of the structure. 

It's a method which was also used in Mizu no Kotoba, where the camera and audio played on a complex layering of conversations and sub-plots. 

For example, the scene where Chie goes up the stairs after stealing Rikuo's glasses, and the camera zooms right beyond this initial focus to Masaki and the subsequent Blade Runner conversation, or where the conversation between Sammi and Nagi is overlayed, and quickly transferred to Rikuo and Akiko's conversation regarding the rules of the cafe vs the Robotic Laws. 

These seamless transitions are made without a visual cut, making for a very fluid and coherent flow.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;icies last blog post..&lt;a href="http://www.pireze.org/blog/?p=4182" rel="nofollow"&gt;Expressions of Interest: Toei’s 1975 Little Mermaid (Ningyo Hime)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also quite a big fan of the camera methods they used, which is really indicative of the new types of shot transitions possible when using 3D software. This is especially relevant within the confined spaces of the Eve no Jikan cafe, where as Sasa says, the camera effortlessly zooms in on the action from an original position providing an overview of the structure. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a method which was also used in Mizu no Kotoba, where the camera and audio played on a complex layering of conversations and sub-plots. </p>
<p>For example, the scene where Chie goes up the stairs after stealing Rikuo&#8217;s glasses, and the camera zooms right beyond this initial focus to Masaki and the subsequent Blade Runner conversation, or where the conversation between Sammi and Nagi is overlayed, and quickly transferred to Rikuo and Akiko&#8217;s conversation regarding the rules of the cafe vs the Robotic Laws. </p>
<p>These seamless transitions are made without a visual cut, making for a very fluid and coherent flow.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>icies last blog post..<a href="http://www.pireze.org/blog/?p=4182" rel="nofollow">Expressions of Interest: Toei’s 1975 Little Mermaid (Ningyo Hime)</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45631</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Demian: thanks. I think that as technology advances Asimov's theories will take on more significance as opposed to becoming outdated and irrelevant. Makes his three Laws all the more interesting - I need to read some of his stuff actually because it comes across as so ahead of its time.

@Sasa: wow, epic comment! I love the way in which these short episodes offer so much food for thought.
&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t necessarily think so. I agree that Rikuo isn’t really sure of what to do, and I also don’t think he would ever have any malice, but it is hinted (by Nagi I think) that he wants his android to act upon his wishes and not to be too indepedent. It would be rather human to feel hurt that somebody has secrets in front of you after all; this is not necessarily limited to androids. But, the desire of controlling an android is probably even stronger because humans fear to ‘lose’ to them maybe?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That scene can be interpreted in several ways I think, which made drawing my own conclusion a bit problematic. It seems that society has drummed the idea of robots=servants into his head, which might cloud his own, less biased, feelings. The overwhelming feeling there though is that something unexpected is happening so yeah, there's definitely an element of fear there too.

As for the rule of Time of Eve, I think it makes for a great haven or escape from the prejudiced outside world, but I'm not sure either if that rule would be practical everywhere. As with the feminism issue, there isn't any &lt;em&gt;superiority and inferiority&lt;/em&gt; so prejudice along those lines is unacceptable. At the same time though admitting mere &lt;em&gt;difference&lt;/em&gt; is acceptable. In other words, treating androids as inferior is unfair but admitting that differences between humans and androids is fair, and will make life easier. I think it's great to have a place that androids can be free and respected, but outside of the Time of Eve this policy will solve some problems but create new ones too.
&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m a big fan of the shot from the very top that do not just switch to another shot, but pan to them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You mean the shots that look like a hand-held camera? I found them awkward at first, but now I appreciate why that technique is used, and I guess it's quite a tricky thing to do from a technical point of view.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Nagi, barista. Android or human? You decide

I’ll go for human.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I like your arguments there. I'm still unsure of Nagi to be honest (why is she defensive of android equality to the point of opening the cafe?) but the character in Aquatic Language that is similar to hers is an android too, which took me by surprise. Interestingly, the nature of Chie and the old man could swing either way - assuming that androids can eat ice-cream! My money would be on a child given an android carer that makes a substitute grandparent/babysitter.

I'd love to open a cafe like Eve, possibly a blues bar in the evenings or something. As for Crunchyroll, I've never bothered with it before - I still prefer a mix of retail DVDs and the labour-of-love of fansubbers, mainly because I'm old-fashioned and prefer hard copies of music and video on disc as opposed to download-to-own like CR and iTunes.

@Hanners: the great thing about this series is that individual angle thing - the comments from Sasa and yourself make me chew on the ideas all over again, which will make viewing #3 even more rewarding! I can't wait to see how the idea of romance in the Time of Eve is explored in ep #3...which ought to be out early December by my reckoning.

Keep the thoughts coming, people! ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Demian: thanks. I think that as technology advances Asimov&#8217;s theories will take on more significance as opposed to becoming outdated and irrelevant. Makes his three Laws all the more interesting - I need to read some of his stuff actually because it comes across as so ahead of its time.</p>
<p>@Sasa: wow, epic comment! I love the way in which these short episodes offer so much food for thought.</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t necessarily think so. I agree that Rikuo isn’t really sure of what to do, and I also don’t think he would ever have any malice, but it is hinted (by Nagi I think) that he wants his android to act upon his wishes and not to be too indepedent. It would be rather human to feel hurt that somebody has secrets in front of you after all; this is not necessarily limited to androids. But, the desire of controlling an android is probably even stronger because humans fear to ‘lose’ to them maybe?</p></blockquote>
<p>That scene can be interpreted in several ways I think, which made drawing my own conclusion a bit problematic. It seems that society has drummed the idea of robots=servants into his head, which might cloud his own, less biased, feelings. The overwhelming feeling there though is that something unexpected is happening so yeah, there&#8217;s definitely an element of fear there too.</p>
<p>As for the rule of Time of Eve, I think it makes for a great haven or escape from the prejudiced outside world, but I&#8217;m not sure either if that rule would be practical everywhere. As with the feminism issue, there isn&#8217;t any <em>superiority and inferiority</em> so prejudice along those lines is unacceptable. At the same time though admitting mere <em>difference</em> is acceptable. In other words, treating androids as inferior is unfair but admitting that differences between humans and androids is fair, and will make life easier. I think it&#8217;s great to have a place that androids can be free and respected, but outside of the Time of Eve this policy will solve some problems but create new ones too.</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m a big fan of the shot from the very top that do not just switch to another shot, but pan to them.</p></blockquote>
<p>You mean the shots that look like a hand-held camera? I found them awkward at first, but now I appreciate why that technique is used, and I guess it&#8217;s quite a tricky thing to do from a technical point of view.</p>
<blockquote><p>Nagi, barista. Android or human? You decide</p>
<p>I’ll go for human.</p></blockquote>
<p>I like your arguments there. I&#8217;m still unsure of Nagi to be honest (why is she defensive of android equality to the point of opening the cafe?) but the character in Aquatic Language that is similar to hers is an android too, which took me by surprise. Interestingly, the nature of Chie and the old man could swing either way - assuming that androids can eat ice-cream! My money would be on a child given an android carer that makes a substitute grandparent/babysitter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to open a cafe like Eve, possibly a blues bar in the evenings or something. As for Crunchyroll, I&#8217;ve never bothered with it before - I still prefer a mix of retail DVDs and the labour-of-love of fansubbers, mainly because I&#8217;m old-fashioned and prefer hard copies of music and video on disc as opposed to download-to-own like CR and iTunes.</p>
<p>@Hanners: the great thing about this series is that individual angle thing - the comments from Sasa and yourself make me chew on the ideas all over again, which will make viewing #3 even more rewarding! I can&#8217;t wait to see how the idea of romance in the Time of Eve is explored in ep #3&#8230;which ought to be out early December by my reckoning.</p>
<p>Keep the thoughts coming, people! ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: Hanners</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45628</link>
		<dc:creator>Hanners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having just watched (and 'Blogged about) this episode, I've really enjoyed reading this post of yours, mostly because it largely approaches the whole thing from a different point of view to my own thoughts on it.  

It's fascinating to hear your personal thoughts on the various character interactions, while I've found myself coming at the series from a more philosophical standpoint, considering the "Why" instead of the "What".

I guess that's what makes this series a little slice of genius (which I really would rate it as thus far), it has so much going for it that I can't blame you for re-watching it before putting your thoughts together, it's certainly a series that has more to offer every time you look at it I suspect.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Hannerss last blog post..&lt;a href="http://hanners-anime.blogspot.com/2008/10/eve-no-jikan-episode-2.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;EVE no Jikan - Episode 2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having just watched (and &#8216;Blogged about) this episode, I&#8217;ve really enjoyed reading this post of yours, mostly because it largely approaches the whole thing from a different point of view to my own thoughts on it.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s fascinating to hear your personal thoughts on the various character interactions, while I&#8217;ve found myself coming at the series from a more philosophical standpoint, considering the &#8220;Why&#8221; instead of the &#8220;What&#8221;.</p>
<p>I guess that&#8217;s what makes this series a little slice of genius (which I really would rate it as thus far), it has so much going for it that I can&#8217;t blame you for re-watching it before putting your thoughts together, it&#8217;s certainly a series that has more to offer every time you look at it I suspect.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Hannerss last blog post..<a href="http://hanners-anime.blogspot.com/2008/10/eve-no-jikan-episode-2.html" rel="nofollow">EVE no Jikan - Episode 2</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Sasa</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45626</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my, what a great posting. I think I have to comment while reading it or otherwise I'll forget about my thoughts, heh.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I suppose the shock comes from seeing a side of his own android that isn’t evident in any other situation because Rikuo doesn’t react with anger and indignant demands as to why she acted on her own&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I don't necessarily think so. I agree that Rikuo isn't really sure of what to do, and I also don't think he would ever have any malice, but it is hinted (by Nagi I think) that he wants his android to act upon his wishes and not to be too indepedent. It would be rather human to feel hurt that somebody has secrets in front of you after all; this is not necessarily limited to androids. But, the desire of controlling an android is probably even stronger because humans fear to 'lose' to them maybe?

I am not sure how I feel about the rules in the Time of Eve myself, to be honest. The world that does not allow people to treat their androids accordingly (because if they have feelings, they "deserve" to be treated nicely) is very problematic, but I am also not sure whether enforcing these kinds of rules onto people's actions is the right way to fight against such a society. To me, this is a little like the type of feminism that I dislike so much. Of course there are differences between men and women (and unlike humans and droids, these visible differences cannot be hidden that easily), and just by pretending that there is no difference, an equality created in such a way does not feel 'real' for me; it's like healing symptoms without going to its roots. In an ideal world of true harmonic interaction between humans and androids, saying out loud that somebody is an android or discussing human and android matters should not be a danger to the harmony. I feel awkward every time Nagi tries to teach Rikuo that he has to pretend that the androids in the room were just like humans.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Nagi, barista. Android or human? You decide&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I'll go for human. Why? First, because it is likely that humans are still somewhat superior over many androids when it comes to independent thoughts. Second, because history has shown that the people who have taken the lead in fighting for the benefit of less privileged people in society were often at the very top of a society themselves. It is more likely that somebody from the top has money and time to take the challenge of doing 'something good' for society, while I can imagine that androids are very restricted in what they are allowed to do.

What I like about this anime the most are still the visuals and the great cinematography - I'm a big fan of the shot from the very top that do not just switch to another shot, but pan to them. (Does that make sense?) Of course it helps that the story is brilliant too.

All in all, I have liked the exposition of the first episode more than this episode (although Sammy does look very cute with her hair tied up, heh). And I am expecting quite a lot from the next episode focusing on the couple. So, shall we open a café together that'll look like the Time of Eve? ;)

PS. I can't believe you are linking to that evil, evil Crunchyroll site, sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my, what a great posting. I think I have to comment while reading it or otherwise I&#8217;ll forget about my thoughts, heh.</p>
<blockquote><p>I suppose the shock comes from seeing a side of his own android that isn’t evident in any other situation because Rikuo doesn’t react with anger and indignant demands as to why she acted on her own</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t necessarily think so. I agree that Rikuo isn&#8217;t really sure of what to do, and I also don&#8217;t think he would ever have any malice, but it is hinted (by Nagi I think) that he wants his android to act upon his wishes and not to be too indepedent. It would be rather human to feel hurt that somebody has secrets in front of you after all; this is not necessarily limited to androids. But, the desire of controlling an android is probably even stronger because humans fear to &#8216;lose&#8217; to them maybe?</p>
<p>I am not sure how I feel about the rules in the Time of Eve myself, to be honest. The world that does not allow people to treat their androids accordingly (because if they have feelings, they &#8220;deserve&#8221; to be treated nicely) is very problematic, but I am also not sure whether enforcing these kinds of rules onto people&#8217;s actions is the right way to fight against such a society. To me, this is a little like the type of feminism that I dislike so much. Of course there are differences between men and women (and unlike humans and droids, these visible differences cannot be hidden that easily), and just by pretending that there is no difference, an equality created in such a way does not feel &#8216;real&#8217; for me; it&#8217;s like healing symptoms without going to its roots. In an ideal world of true harmonic interaction between humans and androids, saying out loud that somebody is an android or discussing human and android matters should not be a danger to the harmony. I feel awkward every time Nagi tries to teach Rikuo that he has to pretend that the androids in the room were just like humans.</p>
<blockquote><p>Nagi, barista. Android or human? You decide</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll go for human. Why? First, because it is likely that humans are still somewhat superior over many androids when it comes to independent thoughts. Second, because history has shown that the people who have taken the lead in fighting for the benefit of less privileged people in society were often at the very top of a society themselves. It is more likely that somebody from the top has money and time to take the challenge of doing &#8217;something good&#8217; for society, while I can imagine that androids are very restricted in what they are allowed to do.</p>
<p>What I like about this anime the most are still the visuals and the great cinematography - I&#8217;m a big fan of the shot from the very top that do not just switch to another shot, but pan to them. (Does that make sense?) Of course it helps that the story is brilliant too.</p>
<p>All in all, I have liked the exposition of the first episode more than this episode (although Sammy does look very cute with her hair tied up, heh). And I am expecting quite a lot from the next episode focusing on the couple. So, shall we open a café together that&#8217;ll look like the Time of Eve? <img src='http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>PS. I can&#8217;t believe you are linking to that evil, evil Crunchyroll site, sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Demian</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/10/05/eve-no-jikan-time-of-eve-act02-sammy/#comment-45624</link>
		<dc:creator>Demian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on analysis. This is truly the most mature and skillfully written anime to come out in at least a year, if not more. While I had thought that Asimov and his like had done everything possible with the three laws of robotics, I'm glad to see that Yoshiura can make them appear relevant, and even more human, again.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Demians last blog post..&lt;a href="http://otakuism.animeblogger.net/2008/10/finally-watched-the-macross-frontier-finale/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Finally Watched the Macross Frontier Finale&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on analysis. This is truly the most mature and skillfully written anime to come out in at least a year, if not more. While I had thought that Asimov and his like had done everything possible with the three laws of robotics, I&#8217;m glad to see that Yoshiura can make them appear relevant, and even more human, again.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Demians last blog post..<a href="http://otakuism.animeblogger.net/2008/10/finally-watched-the-macross-frontier-finale/" rel="nofollow">Finally Watched the Macross Frontier Finale</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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