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		<title>By: Zeroblade</title>
		<link>http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/2008/11/11/on-plotting-the-perfect-anime-murder/#comment-45795</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeroblade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"@Zeroblade: that’s ok. It looks like C;H is going to be really unpredictable, at least for me!"
You're definitely right in that aspect. Everything was so completely unpredictable that it always kept me on my toes.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Zeroblades last blog post..&lt;a href="http://zeroblade.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/solanin/" rel="nofollow"&gt;solanin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;@Zeroblade: that’s ok. It looks like C;H is going to be really unpredictable, at least for me!&#8221;<br />
You&#8217;re definitely right in that aspect. Everything was so completely unpredictable that it always kept me on my toes.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Zeroblades last blog post..<a href="http://zeroblade.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/solanin/" rel="nofollow">solanin</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 00:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry about the late reply everyone. Things have been hectic! ^_^

@Ghostlightning: cheers. I'm hoping C;H improves, but I was expecting it to hit its stride sooner given its length.

@Peter S: I'm getting Daughter of Twenty Faces vibes with MnH too - probably the setting, which is in fashion in the anime industry all of a sudden (not that I'm complaining or anything).

@Flamestrike: thanks. I don't know anything about the game (I'm assuming the anime is aimed at people who've played it0€. I'll keep with it for a bit longer!

@Sorrow-kun: I quite like the reality-blurring of C;H (I'm a huge Kon fan after all) but that end theme...what's that about!? :P

@Zeroblade: that's ok. It looks like C;H is going to be really unpredictable, at least for me!

@Hanners: I'd be interested to learn how exactly Takumi became an ass but yeah, it's understandable how he's reacting now that his life is getting really scary and complicated. Like I said, I'll carry on with it for a bit longer and see how I get on.

@Kairu Ishimaru: there aren't many anime mystery shows around, but if you enjoy Chaos;Head I think you'd love Paranoia Agent. It messes with your head in the best possible way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry about the late reply everyone. Things have been hectic! ^_^</p>
<p>@Ghostlightning: cheers. I&#8217;m hoping C;H improves, but I was expecting it to hit its stride sooner given its length.</p>
<p>@Peter S: I&#8217;m getting Daughter of Twenty Faces vibes with MnH too - probably the setting, which is in fashion in the anime industry all of a sudden (not that I&#8217;m complaining or anything).</p>
<p>@Flamestrike: thanks. I don&#8217;t know anything about the game (I&#8217;m assuming the anime is aimed at people who&#8217;ve played it0€. I&#8217;ll keep with it for a bit longer!</p>
<p>@Sorrow-kun: I quite like the reality-blurring of C;H (I&#8217;m a huge Kon fan after all) but that end theme&#8230;what&#8217;s that about!? <img src='http://www.concretebadger.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Zeroblade: that&#8217;s ok. It looks like C;H is going to be really unpredictable, at least for me!</p>
<p>@Hanners: I&#8217;d be interested to learn how exactly Takumi became an ass but yeah, it&#8217;s understandable how he&#8217;s reacting now that his life is getting really scary and complicated. Like I said, I&#8217;ll carry on with it for a bit longer and see how I get on.</p>
<p>@Kairu Ishimaru: there aren&#8217;t many anime mystery shows around, but if you enjoy Chaos;Head I think you&#8217;d love Paranoia Agent. It messes with your head in the best possible way!</p>
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		<title>By: Kairu Ishimaru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kairu Ishimaru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too. Im a fan of mystery shows. So far, I really loved Chaos;Head.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kairu Ishimarus last blog post..&lt;a href="http://kielmaru07.wordpress.com/2008/11/15/chaoshead-episode-6/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Chaos;Head episode 6&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too. Im a fan of mystery shows. So far, I really loved Chaos;Head.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Kairu Ishimarus last blog post..<a href="http://kielmaru07.wordpress.com/2008/11/15/chaoshead-episode-6/" rel="nofollow">Chaos;Head episode 6</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Hanners</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hanners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with the other posters here as far as Chaos;Head is concerned - It does have the outward appearance of becoming a harem show (and I'm sure some of that is to cater towards that market given the way it's been presented so far), but there is a deeper reason for all these girls hanging around Takumi, as they do all clearly want something from him, and they're all tied up with whatever is going on in some fashion even if we don't know how.

That aside, I've really enjoyed Chaos;Head so far, it's been almost masterful in its mixing of "delusion" and "reality" to leave the viewer feeling as out of place as the protagonist, to the point where I can actually forgive and almost sympathise with him for being an ass.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Hannerss last blog post..&lt;a href="http://hanners-anime.blogspot.com/2008/11/ef-tale-of-melodies-episode-5.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;ef - a tale of melodies - Episode 5&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with the other posters here as far as Chaos;Head is concerned - It does have the outward appearance of becoming a harem show (and I&#8217;m sure some of that is to cater towards that market given the way it&#8217;s been presented so far), but there is a deeper reason for all these girls hanging around Takumi, as they do all clearly want something from him, and they&#8217;re all tied up with whatever is going on in some fashion even if we don&#8217;t know how.</p>
<p>That aside, I&#8217;ve really enjoyed Chaos;Head so far, it&#8217;s been almost masterful in its mixing of &#8220;delusion&#8221; and &#8220;reality&#8221; to leave the viewer feeling as out of place as the protagonist, to the point where I can actually forgive and almost sympathise with him for being an ass.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Hannerss last blog post..<a href="http://hanners-anime.blogspot.com/2008/11/ef-tale-of-melodies-episode-5.html" rel="nofollow">ef - a tale of melodies - Episode 5</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Zeroblade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeroblade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spoiler:
Chaos;Head is not a murder mystery-centric anime/game.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Zeroblades last blog post..&lt;a href="http://zeroblade.wordpress.com/2008/11/10/chaoshead-sure-is-quality/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Chaos;Head sure is QUALITY.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spoiler:<br />
Chaos;Head is not a murder mystery-centric anime/game.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Zeroblades last blog post..<a href="http://zeroblade.wordpress.com/2008/11/10/chaoshead-sure-is-quality/" rel="nofollow">Chaos;Head sure is QUALITY.</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Sorrow-kun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorrow-kun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly won't disagree that Mouryou no Hako is the more superior show (so far), but Chaos;Head does have its charms.  The blurred line between reality and delusion does keep things suspenseful and suitably shrouded, and I've no problem with the supernatural turn (Mouryou no Haku itself isn't completely grounded in reality either).  My biggest problem is that the girls are all so uninteresting and devoid of any depth.  But I do dig the campy, catchy ED theme.  "You know you're &lt;em&gt;super special&lt;/em&gt;..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly won&#8217;t disagree that Mouryou no Hako is the more superior show (so far), but Chaos;Head does have its charms.  The blurred line between reality and delusion does keep things suspenseful and suitably shrouded, and I&#8217;ve no problem with the supernatural turn (Mouryou no Haku itself isn&#8217;t completely grounded in reality either).  My biggest problem is that the girls are all so uninteresting and devoid of any depth.  But I do dig the campy, catchy ED theme.  &#8220;You know you&#8217;re <em>super special</em>&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: FlameStrike</title>
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		<dc:creator>FlameStrike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, it might be MadHouse's fault for making you think Chaos;Head is somehow a fantasy harem gig, but I've read the game it is is DEFINATLY not anything like a harem or comedy. It may seem confuseing now but it all adds up in the end (well game wise atleast). I recommend you stick on it for a bit. 

&#62;&#62;This is all well and good but apart from the obvious stumbling-block of every female character seemingly eager to play along with his every whim even though he’s a cantankerous ass,

That's not exactly the case. As I said before Chaos;Head isn't a harem. The VN has 1 route and 1 route only, only one girl really gets anything going with Takumi and all of them have there own reasons for involving themselves with him.

&#62;&#62;the story seems to veer into fantasy territory and drag it away from its realistic mystery-thriller grounding. I’m actually less upset about the latter point because I’m aware of how the viewer can get an idea into his/her head and act all disappointed when the series doesn’t play out exactly as s/he intended; I was expecting less fantasy and more realism, and I admit that when I’m disappointed with the way things play out it’s my own fault.

lol with the Di-Swords poping out of the air I can see where you're coming from. But don't worry, Chaos;Head surprisingly dabbles into theratical physics and "fake sicence" Matrix style to explain the bazzare events that occur. It never blatantly falls into the fantasy realm.
I think C;H is more of a phyicological thriller then a mystery, but it does have lots of both. C;H has tons of plot twists that keep you guessing untill the very end. One of the main things C;H the game was able to do was put me into the perspective/mind of a veeeeery f*ck'd up guy. Takumi's mind is REALLY screwed up and he falls backwards very fast and far throught the whole thing. There were times I really wanted to kick his ass but his situation was crazy to the point where I knew where he was coming from and couldn't but all the blame on him. Shit really hits the fan and the poor guy gets POUNDED with it. 

Ugh sorry for heaping this game review on here. Well basically since the game is good, the anime might not be all that bad. Or atleast I hope so. The anime is failing to recreate the same intense, paranoid atmosphere that keeps you on your toes (Too much olol "harem") but I think it will still turn out good in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, it might be MadHouse&#8217;s fault for making you think Chaos;Head is somehow a fantasy harem gig, but I&#8217;ve read the game it is is DEFINATLY not anything like a harem or comedy. It may seem confuseing now but it all adds up in the end (well game wise atleast). I recommend you stick on it for a bit. </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;This is all well and good but apart from the obvious stumbling-block of every female character seemingly eager to play along with his every whim even though he’s a cantankerous ass,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not exactly the case. As I said before Chaos;Head isn&#8217;t a harem. The VN has 1 route and 1 route only, only one girl really gets anything going with Takumi and all of them have there own reasons for involving themselves with him.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;the story seems to veer into fantasy territory and drag it away from its realistic mystery-thriller grounding. I’m actually less upset about the latter point because I’m aware of how the viewer can get an idea into his/her head and act all disappointed when the series doesn’t play out exactly as s/he intended; I was expecting less fantasy and more realism, and I admit that when I’m disappointed with the way things play out it’s my own fault.</p>
<p>lol with the Di-Swords poping out of the air I can see where you&#8217;re coming from. But don&#8217;t worry, Chaos;Head surprisingly dabbles into theratical physics and &#8220;fake sicence&#8221; Matrix style to explain the bazzare events that occur. It never blatantly falls into the fantasy realm.<br />
I think C;H is more of a phyicological thriller then a mystery, but it does have lots of both. C;H has tons of plot twists that keep you guessing untill the very end. One of the main things C;H the game was able to do was put me into the perspective/mind of a veeeeery f*ck&#8217;d up guy. Takumi&#8217;s mind is REALLY screwed up and he falls backwards very fast and far throught the whole thing. There were times I really wanted to kick his ass but his situation was crazy to the point where I knew where he was coming from and couldn&#8217;t but all the blame on him. Shit really hits the fan and the poor guy gets POUNDED with it. </p>
<p>Ugh sorry for heaping this game review on here. Well basically since the game is good, the anime might not be all that bad. Or atleast I hope so. The anime is failing to recreate the same intense, paranoid atmosphere that keeps you on your toes (Too much olol &#8220;harem&#8221;) but I think it will still turn out good in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I'm keeping them both, though I agree that Mnh is the better show.  I hadn't really thought about C;H as a mystery, certainly not in the way of a Chandler.  Must be the Di-Swords.  And I'm not certain the girls fawning over our hapless hero is purely harem anime material.  They want something from him.  The thing I like is that he seems to realize this, and is suspicious of it, feeding his paranoia further.  I also like it that though they pay attention to him, they don't give him any real help at all.  "Find your sword," eh?  Thanks for the tip, lady.  Any ideas how?

I was actually a little disappointed by Mnh when we see the girl with clockwork limbs.  It suggests the show is going to take a different tack than I thought.  Now, as you suggest, I imagine Chiko and Twenty Faces riding around in a blimp nearby.  Or maybe Steampunk is getting a little cliche.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m keeping them both, though I agree that Mnh is the better show.  I hadn&#8217;t really thought about C;H as a mystery, certainly not in the way of a Chandler.  Must be the Di-Swords.  And I&#8217;m not certain the girls fawning over our hapless hero is purely harem anime material.  They want something from him.  The thing I like is that he seems to realize this, and is suspicious of it, feeding his paranoia further.  I also like it that though they pay attention to him, they don&#8217;t give him any real help at all.  &#8220;Find your sword,&#8221; eh?  Thanks for the tip, lady.  Any ideas how?</p>
<p>I was actually a little disappointed by Mnh when we see the girl with clockwork limbs.  It suggests the show is going to take a different tack than I thought.  Now, as you suggest, I imagine Chiko and Twenty Faces riding around in a blimp nearby.  Or maybe Steampunk is getting a little cliche.</p>
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		<title>By: ghostlightning</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghostlightning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, Mnh sounds quite interesting - I think my wife who watches all those detective/forensic shows religiously can get into it. The annoying lead that somehow has girls falling all over him is really off-putting. I've all but given up on Tales of the Abyss due to it, if not for the wife who seems to enjoy it and like you - I want to see how it ends.

I find your reviews (even if they may not be intended as such) really helpful. Thanks for the heads up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, Mnh sounds quite interesting - I think my wife who watches all those detective/forensic shows religiously can get into it. The annoying lead that somehow has girls falling all over him is really off-putting. I&#8217;ve all but given up on Tales of the Abyss due to it, if not for the wife who seems to enjoy it and like you - I want to see how it ends.</p>
<p>I find your reviews (even if they may not be intended as such) really helpful. Thanks for the heads up.</p>
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